The Walking Dead S:7 Ep:2 9 Deuce<\/p>\n
This week, we were finally introduced to the Kingdom, and I don’t really see how you could be too disappointed by this. Next week, we presumably get to check out Negan and the Savior’s compound, so lots of excitement. In this episode, we finally got to meet King Ezekiel, his pet tiger, Shiva, and some other delightful people, including Ezekiel’s man servant, Jerry. In case you are new to this, the format here is simple. I ask 9 episode specific questions and follow it up with 2 bonus questions that can be anything Walking Dead universe related. I like to leave comments to some of the answers that make me laugh or bring up fascinating points, or just because I want to. With that out of the way, please meet my panel of contributors: Bob, Cece, Briana, Raylene, Eric, Melanie, Jess, and the quintessential studdmuffin.<\/p>\n
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Bits: \u00a0We\u2019ve always wanted Carol to have a romance with someone. \u00a0At this point i\u2019d love to see Carol start her own group- not a romance. \u00a0However, if you want me to say yes, it\u2019d be with Ezekiel. \u00a0They def had tension but Carol is so unpredictable. \u00a0(Kent: Nobody is twisting your arm to force a romance. I like your idea of Carol running her own group and maybe in 3 seasons, that could precisely happen as a precedent has been set for that in some ways.)<\/strong><\/p>\n Cece: \u00a0Maybe. I don’t think they’ll explore that much, as they used to somewhat allude to her and Daryl. BUT, I could totally ship Carol\/Ezekiel.\u00a0(Kent: No I was referring to a romance. I don’t think Ezekiel has access to a ship, nor does Carol. As we saw in Fear The Walking Dead, boats and hoes don’t mix.)<\/strong><\/p>\n Bob: \u00a0No but I think we were led to believe there should be one between Ezekiel and her.<\/p>\n Briana: It’s funny you asked this because I really thought she and Ezekiel seemed like there would be more to come of them. And frankly, I like it. I like the idea of the 2 of them. I think he could bring her out of this weird break down she’s been going through.<\/p>\n Raylene:\u00a0 Yes I think that Carol will end up with the king.<\/p>\n Eric:\u00a0 Yes with Morgan<\/p>\n Melanie: Yes, with a lady. Maybe that girl who I can never remember her name. (Kent: She doesn\u2019t deserve a name.\u00a0 I wonder if they still to film her from the breasts up again this season.)<\/strong><\/p>\n Jess: \u00a0I wouldn’t mind seeing something play out between Carol and Ezekiel<\/p>\n Kent:\u00a0 I have long wanted Daryl and Carol since season 2, and it\u2019s rare for me to cheer on any romance. I think with both Sasha and Maggie newly single, plus Rosita technically, and then Tobin if you consider it, we are down to Rick and Michonne, so yeah, Carol and Ezekiel because somebody has to be his love interest. \u00a0I want you to consider that since Lori’s death, TWD has been notorious for their mixed race relationships. Aside from some really short lived ones like Bob & Sasha, Rick & Jessie, Governor & Andrea, the lesbians, and the gay dudes, most relationships that are big in the show are mixed. We’ve had Glenn & Maggie, Abe & Rosita, Abe & Sasha, Rick & Michonne, and Negan and Lucille. This seems likely the more I think about it. Plus in the comic, it’s Michonne and Ezekiel, so this just works out.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n Bits: \u00a0Carol is all sorts of effed up right now. \u00a0She is having Rick hears the phone or Rick sees Laurie moments, just PTSD.<\/p>\n Cece: \u00a0I think it’s more of her mind getting to her.<\/p>\n Bob: \u00a0I think her seeing Walkers as living people was just a moment of reflection connected to her delirium.\u00a0 Those fears should be put away since she simply walked into that house at the end and without hesitation terminated the walker in there.<\/p>\n Briana: Since it only happened in the beginning when she was dealing with the bullet wounds, that’s all it seemed to be for me. I think it was an interesting concept to let us glimpse but I don’t think it will be an ongoing thing. \u00a0(Kent: That’s how I took it as well.)<\/strong><\/p>\n Raylene:\u00a0 I believe Carol’s reached her breaking point and just has no desire to kill anymore.<\/p>\n Eric:\u00a0 Both. She has been through so much trauma having to kill real people that is broken and the bullet was the catalyst.\u00a0(Kent: I gotta say, this is probably the most eloquent answer. Well done.)<\/strong><\/p>\n Melanie:\u00a0 Bullet wound and guilt is why she is hallucinating.<\/p>\n Jess: \u00a0I think it’s a little bit of both<\/p>\n Kent:\u00a0 I\u2019m going to go with the bullet wound causing some mental stuff, and maybe she received some medical care that could make her see some stuff.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n Bits: Again, I know nothing about the comics, so yes, I\u2019m hopeful that Ezekiel will be good. \u00a0I\u2019d like to see a round table with Ezekiel, Jesus, Morgan and Rick. \u00a0Just for giggles.<\/p>\n Cece: \u00a0Yes, I believe he is doing what needs to be done to keep people safe and happy.<\/p>\n Bob: \u00a0King Ezekiel is not a good leader because he is lying to his people.\u00a0 King’s often lord over their subjects like this situation but this is a savage world they live in.\u00a0 Also, Ezekiel should not be trusting outsiders so quickly versus his own people.\u00a0 That doesn’t make any sense. \u00a0(Kent: I think you win this one. The trusting outsiders thing really doesn’t sit well with me. It tells me that he is too eager to bend to impress or get assistance. On the outside, it seems smart only because we know Carol, but otherwise, it’s a terrible idea.)<\/strong><\/p>\n Briana: Yes and no. His methods seem to be working for now and it’s not like he’s delusional or blind to what’s happening around him, he’s just trying to keep his people happy in the only way he knows how. With that being said, it could definitely backfire if the Saviors or any other faction decides to attack them. His people will be completely off guard and helpless.<\/p>\n Raylene:\u00a0 Yes the King is a good leader so far he created the character for people to follow and to feel safety in this world.\u00a0(Kent: That’s a whole other thing, isn’t he basically The Governor? The Governor created a character with charisma to get people to buy into what he was selling, despite not knowing an exact plan. So yeah, very smart.)<\/strong><\/p>\n Eric:\u00a0 Good leader, no. Crazy enough for people to believe him, yup.<\/p>\n Melanie:\u00a0 Not a good leader in a real world sense, but in Walking dead land. Yes. That tiger though… \u00a0(Kent: That tiger though……yeah, pretty much.)<\/strong><\/p>\n Jess: \u00a0I hope he proves it to himself that he’s a good leader because right now he seems a little unsure. I want him to be a bad ass!<\/p>\n Kent:\u00a0 He\u2019s smart, very smart. He\u2019s definitely smarter than Gregory, and more observant.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know how strong he is as far as a leader, he just portrays it.\u00a0 I see him as an improved version of the guy that we got in the comics. Yes, he is a good face or leadership, at the moment, as everybody seems happy and knows their role, and seem organized. Good leader…..I don’t know yet.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n Bits: \u00a0No<\/p>\n Cece: More than likely. And I hope so!\u00a0(Kent: Why do you want harm to come to the innocent saviors who are just doing their jobs to survive?)<\/strong><\/p>\n Bob: \u00a0No, it hasn’t yet that we know of.<\/p>\n Briana: This was another that I had considered deeply while watching. When Bob was tainted meat, we never got the chance to see if it affected them because our group slaughtered them immediately after. I can see where cooking the meat could possibly make it alright. We cook our food now to extinguish things like E. coli and other bacteria so it wouldn’t surprise me if that’s the case here. At the same time though, we are talking zombie disease instead of normal bacteria. So I’m extremely curious to see if and how it effects them. \u00a0(Kent: I’m glad to see that I’m not the only one to totally overthink this one.)<\/strong><\/p>\n Raylene:\u00a0 I think the tainted meat will speed up the infection<\/p>\n Eric:\u00a0 yes<\/p>\n Melanie:\u00a0 yes<\/p>\n Jess: It would be awesome if it did<\/p>\n Kent: I\u2019m incredibly conflicted on this one. I don\u2019t believe that the Hunters\/Gareth\u2019s people had any ill effects from eating tainted Bob. Also, we know that everybody is infected thanks to Jenner. With that being said, if you read the comics, there is a form of biological warfare. That implies that if it gets in you internally, it should turn you faster, for the same reason that a bite will turn you. It should have an effect is my answer, but cooking it could negate it.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n Bits: Ben. \u00a0This will make Morgan want to kill again.<\/p>\n Cece: \u00a0Ben. I have a feeling they’ll build him up, and get the fans to like him first.<\/p>\n Bob: \u00a0Ben – it will affect Ezekiel more and begin to make him unstable.<\/p>\n Briana: Ohhhhh that’s a really tough one! You always make this so difficult because I can see either perspective. If the kingdom gives a reason for the Saviors to punish them, we’ve been warned Richard will be first. However, if we are talking regular deaths, Ben just seems to have an apparent target on him. I’m still going to go with Richard as my final answer though!<\/p>\n Raylene:\u00a0 I think Ben will get if first by getting bite<\/p>\n Eric:\u00a0 Ben<\/p>\n Melanie:\u00a0 I don’t know who either of those people are. \u00a0(Kent: I gotta say, I love the bluntness of this response, and it made me laugh. Kudos!)<\/strong><\/p>\n Jess: \u00a0Probably Ben he seems like a wuss.<\/p>\n Kent:\u00a0 Richard seems so obvious, but if Ben takes the teachings from the book to heart and chooses not to kill, I am thinking that it will cause his or Morgan\u2019s death. So Ben is my pick.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n 6:\u00a0 Who do you think will die first: Morgan, Carol, or Ezekiel?<\/p>\n\n Bits: WTF?!?! One of them dies? If i had to guess it would be Morgan. After Ben dies he will want to kill and then in turn be killed. Or maybe Ezekiel. \u00a0Carol can then take over the Kingdom.\u00a0(Kent: Geez Bitty, I am not saying that one of them has to die, but none of them are alive in the comics 20 years later, so it seems likely that one may get got.)<\/strong><\/p>\n Cece: \u00a0That’s hard to say. Maybe none of them. But when it comes to knowing what to do in the ‘real world’ I think Ezekiel has the worst chance of surviving.<\/p>\n Bob: \u00a0Ezekiel (Ezekiel’s Tiger..?)<\/p>\n Briana: I don’t see any of them dying off any time soon. But if I had to choose, it would be Ezekiel. Morgan and Carol have a story line going and they will play that out before considering getting rid of either. Taking it from another perspective though, Carol is by herself most of the time now. She’s close to the Kingdom but not in it so if the Saviors happen to discover she’s living in that house, I don’t see them sparing her.<\/p>\n Raylene:\u00a0 Carol will die first\u00a0(Kent: You are the only one who picked Carol first. You will have bragging rights if this comes to fruition.)<\/strong><\/p>\n Eric:\u00a0 Ezekiel<\/p>\n Melanie:\u00a0 Ezekiel<\/p>\n Jess: \u00a0Morgan.<\/p>\n Kent: Morgan. I just told you why.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n 7:\u00a0 Who is your favorite \u201cnew\u201d character from this episode?<\/p>\n\n Bits: Ezekiel\u2019s man servant, Jerry.<\/p>\n Cece: \u00a0Jerry and Ezekiel.<\/p>\n Bob: \u00a0Richard – he is the new “Abe” but has a head on his shoulders. (Kent: I do hope that Richard lasts long enough for the inevitable war because I really want to see him in action after that statement. Well done.)<\/strong><\/p>\n Briana: Definitely Ezekiel. He is my kind of guy! I grew up doing theater so I can relate to why he has chosen to cope with the apocalypse the way he has. Plus he’s funny and calls it like he sees it. My husband didn’t like him at all but he’s not a very imaginative person the way I am so it didn’t surprise me that we had such different feelings about him.<\/p>\n Raylene:\u00a0 The guy that is with the king usually, Jerry<\/p>\n Eric:\u00a0 Ezekiel<\/p>\n Melanie:\u00a0 Ezekiel’s tiger<\/p>\n Jess: Shiva of course!<\/p>\n Kent:\u00a0 Ezekiel mainly because he is a very smart guy and a master manipulator so far. Plus, his hair is awesome, he owns a tiger, and he even had respect from Gavin (one of the Saviors), so he\u2019s clearly a good business man. I know, most of you are probably going to say Jerry.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n Bits: By the end of the season I predict that the Kingdom will not exists because Rick\u2019s group always effs up walled cities and Carol will be on the move again. \u00a0(Kent: That’s dark. Too soon.)<\/strong><\/p>\n Cece: \u00a0She will more than likely stay where she is now. I have a weird feeling she wants to stay a loner.<\/p>\n Bob: \u00a0Carol will be back in Alexandria by the last or second-to-last episode.<\/p>\n Briana: She will definitely resolve this battle with herself in some way by the end of the season. Whether she will go to the Kingdom or Alexandria, I’m not sure yet. It seems for now that she would lean more toward the Kingdom. But I am also still hopeful that Alexandria, the Hill Top, and the Kingdom will team up for the sake of taking out the Saviors so if that’s the case, it shouldn’t matter which she chooses because they will all be smaller parts of one whole.<\/p>\n Raylene:\u00a0 Carol will live in her home until she dies<\/p>\n Eric:\u00a0 Move back to Alexandria or where ever Rick and the group are.<\/p>\n Melanie:\u00a0 Move back to where ever Rick and the crew are.<\/p>\n Jess: \u00a0She will be back at Alexandria before we know it.<\/p>\n Kent:\u00a0 I\u2019ll guess that she stays at the Kingdom and helps with training. While the fighters seemed competent, they don\u2019t seem to have a huge army.\u00a0 Tobin will be sad. \u00a0If I could make a side wager, I’d place $10 on Carol going to the Hilltop, killing Gregory and just taking over, but she may never make it there.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n Bits: Yes. Maybe himself. \u00a0(Kent: You are incredibly dark with your predictions…..I’m kinda impressed.)<\/strong><\/p>\n Cece: \u00a0probably.<\/p>\n Bob: \u00a0Yes.\u00a0 Everyone has to be dynamic in this show to stay alive.<\/p>\n Briana: Of course. The idea that he thought he could live out the rest of his life without killing someone was absurd in the first place. I think he’s starting to realize things are not as black and white as he’s been pretending. Sure he can justify all day that the wolf guy ended up helping Denise, but at the end of the day, how many decent people die because of the people he could have killed and didn’t. I think killing that savior for Carol’s sake made him start to reconsider his previous philosophy just a little.<\/p>\n Raylene:\u00a0 I think Morgan will kill again to try and save Carol<\/p>\n Eric:\u00a0 Yes<\/p>\n Melanie:\u00a0 Yes<\/p>\n Jess: \u00a0Probably not which could cause his death in the future. \u00a0(Kent: Well you are the contrarian here, so bragging rights if you nail this one!)<\/strong><\/p>\n Kent:\u00a0 I\u2019ll say yes. He will kill to protect Shiva and Ezekiel will reward him with a fair maiden!<\/p>\n <\/p>\n Bonus Deuce<\/p>\n Bits: Unfortunately, it\u2019s all about Survival and the Saviors have the upper hand. \u00a0I choose them. \u00a0(Kent: Well, it appears that we are going to survive, we’re going to live on. Everybody else wants the Kingdom.)<\/strong><\/p>\n Cece: \u00a0The Kingdom.<\/p>\n Bob: \u00a0The Kingdom – they seem to have it good at this point and have some weapons – real weapons.<\/p>\n Briana: I would probably prefer the Kingdom. All of these places have their perks. But the Kingdom seems the most fun.<\/p>\n Raylene:\u00a0 The Kingdom they have a tiger<\/p>\n Eric:\u00a0 Kingdom<\/p>\n Melanie:\u00a0 I go where ever Eric goes.<\/p>\n Jess: \u00a0I’m gonna pick The Kingdom. Ezekiel is already becoming one of my new favorites.<\/p>\n Kent: \u00a0I would say the Saviors is the best because they have power, they have supplies, and if you follow the rules, you survive fairly well.\u00a0 The Kingdom is my second choice. People seem happy there, everybody works and produces, and their wall is up and it works. \u00a0The Hilltop is last because Gregory would sell you out instantly. Alexandria isn\u2019t much better though, but better protection, thanks to Carl.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n Bits : Gabriel. \u00a0I think Gabriel is full of shit and so is Ezekiel. \u00a0They both want good in the end and have to put up a front to get there. \u00a0They would make a good team.<\/p>\n Cece: \u00a0I’d really like to see Rick’s interaction with him.<\/p>\n Bob: \u00a0Gabriel – both are pansies.\u00a0(Kent: Since both you and Bitty chose Gabriel, I pictured it as Gabriel could really use a new start, and he may feel safer there, so I think it would work well in an odd way.)<\/strong><\/p>\n Briana: I’m curious to see how Rick and Carl would react to him. I loved Carol’s reaction because it’s so genuine. After all the things she’s seen, he was absolutely ridiculous for her and I think Rick and Carl would feel similar about it. Abraham would have been a really funny one to see interact with him too if that were an option! “What kind of shit show is this?” Haha!\u00a0(Kent: I’m really surprised that I didn’t consider Carl, but that would be a good one. On the plus side, Carl makes a new friend this season.)<\/strong><\/p>\n Raylene:\u00a0 Enid I think that’s her name Carl’s special lady friend\u00a0(I hadn’t considered her, but she reminds me of Carol in a lot of ways, so that would be funny.)<\/strong><\/p>\n Eric:\u00a0 Darryl<\/p>\n Melanie:\u00a0 Darryl \u00a0(Kent: I picture Daryl having that smirk on his face, the half laugh, half disbelief look, and then telling him that having a tiger is kick ass.)<\/strong><\/p>\n Jess: \u00a0It would’ve been cool to hear Abe’s witty response to a freaking tiger! I miss him already. \u00a0(Kent: Abe was my first choice too in a perfect world. I imagine Abe with Ezekiel and Eugene with Jerry, for a whole hour.)<\/strong><\/p>\n Kent:\u00a0 Eugene. Abe would have been the other obvious choice, but now Eugene is the clear cut favorite, because you know that him and Jerry have to talk at some point.\u00a0 In theory, Heath would also be fun due to the hair game.<\/p>\n That wraps up about 8 or 9 pages of written word. I hope that you all enjoyed the varied responses. Once again, thank you to all of the wonderful people who helped make this possible. If anybody would like to join in, we could have like a ceremony and welcome you to the family, or more than likely, I will just thank you. Contact me, or leave a message!<\/p>\n All of the pictures are the property of AMC, the producers, Robert Kirkman, and all of the other people who helped make this. I am simply using the images for review purposes.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" The Walking Dead S:7 Ep:2 9 Deuce This week, we were finally introduced to the Kingdom, and I don’t really see how you could be too disappointed by this. 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