{"id":16747,"date":"2019-10-16T14:20:30","date_gmt":"2019-10-16T18:20:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.9deuce.tv\/blogs\/?p=16747"},"modified":"2019-10-16T14:20:30","modified_gmt":"2019-10-16T18:20:30","slug":"american-horror-story-9-deuce-1984-ep4-true-killers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/9deuce.tv\/tv\/american-horror-story-9-deuce-1984-ep4-true-killers\/","title":{"rendered":"American Horror Story 9 Deuce 1984 Ep:4 &#8220;True Killers&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This week, Trevor, Bertie, and Richard died, but then Richard was resurrected.  Also, we learned that Jingles wasn&#8217;t responsible for previous murders.\u00a0 My name is Kent and I write the questions every week and I have a great group of people who answer them.\u00a0 If you are familiar with some of the other TV Show blogs that we do on the site, then you will recognize most of the names.\u00a0 If you would like to participate in the blog and answer my inane questions, please contact me at <a href=\"mailto:kent@9deuce.tv\">kent@9deuce.tv<\/a>.\u00a0 Please enjoy!    <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">1.\u00a0 Which fight scene did you prefer: Jingles vs Richard or Montana vs Donna?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kristi:\u00a0 Jingles and Richard. A branch through the head is always going to be a win for me.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Raylene: Jingles and Richard for sure.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Eric:\u00a0 Jingles vs Richard<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Melanie:\u00a0 Jingles (Mister if you&#8217;re nasty) vs Richard<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kelly:\u00a0 Jingles and Richard.\u00a0 The catfight wasn&#8217;t as satisfying.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kent:\u00a0 Okay, I admit that I thoroughly enjoyed the catfight.\u00a0 Maybe it\u2019s because I love wrestling and it brought back memories of the Attitude era and ECW.\u00a0 I liked that neither were skilled fighters and just going for it.  Still, Jingles vs Richard had a clear cut victory.\u00a0 I\u2019m pretty sure I heard the Mortal Kombat guy say \u201cFinish Him\u201d.  Then I am pretty sure that Richard put in a quarter to continue.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">2.\u00a0 Trevor, Bertie, and Richard (he was but then he wasn\u2019t) were killed this week, in some way or another.\u00a0 Which kill did you like best?  Is anybody else able to rise up from being dead?  Is Richard going to somehow tie in with last season\u2019s Apocalypse?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kristi:\u00a0 Again Richard. I hope Jingles does rise. I want to see him kill Margaret. Chick is crazy. And yeah, that was my first thought when he became not dead. (The not dead and Satan thing, it feels like it is due to tie into<strong> Apocalypse&#8230;I hope.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Raylene: It seems like he is now with rising and all. When Bertie died I was disappointed she didn&#8217;t have a huge role this year. I had her in the finale I didn&#8217;t call it.\u00a0 <strong>(I am super disappointed in how they handled Bertie.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Eric:\u00a0 Richard&#8217;s was the best. No one else will rise up. No tie in. <strong>(Eric, you just brought me down from my rising up high.\u00a0 I don\u2019t think anybody else will rise up either.  But Brooke could be a she-demon.\u00a0 Just tossing that out there.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Melanie:\u00a0 Richard&#8217;s death was the best. I don&#8217;t think anyone else will rise. I do not think he is associated with the Apocalypse. <strong>(Another naysayer to the tie-in.\u00a0 Now you people are making me second guess myself.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kelly:\u00a0 (I realize I&#8217;m not answering your question of the &#8220;best&#8221; kill so I apologize ahead of time for that, but I&#8217;ve got a lot to say on this topic.) I&#8217;m so sad for Bertie now that we know she wasn&#8217;t secretly Jingles&#8217; sister or accomplice. We barely got to see her. I&#8217;m sad for Trevor too because I ended up really liking him once you got to see his dedication to helping everyone. We haven&#8217;t seen the ghost in a while so I&#8217;m expecting him to appear again soon which makes me hopeful that maybe the people who die here can come back, like how the Murder House property was. I had a hunch that maybe if there&#8217;s a necessary &#8220;battle&#8221; at the end (maybe with Ramirez now that we see Satan can resurrect him) the fallen victims from the past and of this night can come together and defeat whoever\/whatever needs to be killed. That&#8217;s a great point of Apocalypse since we have a Satanic character.\u00a0 <strong>(There we go.\u00a0 It seems incredibly likely to me that this place is someplace where spirits can exist, and we have seen it before.\u00a0 Since they are now killing off main characters this early, it seems highly likely that they will resurface.  They didn\u2019t scratch the surface with Trevor and Bertie, and I can\u2019t help but feel like their story isn\u2019t over.\u00a0 Apocalypse has also helped set the stage, if they want to go down that road.  I know that sometimes, dead is better, but not in the AHS world.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kent:\u00a0 Trevor\u2019s death pissed me off.\u00a0 That was the point.  Who else could Margaret have killed that would have angered the audience as much?\u00a0 Maybe Jingles, but that is about it.  Trevor seemed to be universally liked.  Bertie\u2019s death was really good and it makes me want to know more about Xavier\u2019s past.\u00a0 We can skip over the gay porn aspect, and that would be cool.  Richard\u2019s was the most Friday the 13th death, and since I have been working all week on that franchise, it gets my nod, but Bertie is a very close second.\u00a0 In hindsight, it may be #1 if there is more of a payoff later on.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">3.\u00a0 We got the truth of Margaret and Benjamin\u2019s (Jingles) past.\u00a0 Does Margaret intend on killing the rest of the group or does she really want to have campers arrive the next day?\u00a0 Will Benjamin become a good guy or remain a killer with some sympathy?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kristi:\u00a0 I don&#8217;t think she will kill &#8217;em all. (Metallica had to.) Ben will be out for revenge when he wakes up.\u00a0 <strong>(Is Margaret hoping to be a Master of Puppets?\u00a0 WIth a new killer enter named Sandman?  In the end, who will truly be Unforgiven?\u00a0 Will Mr. Jingles be Welcome Home to his sanitarium?  I really could do about another 15-20 of these.\u00a0 I\u2019m just hoping to see the Devil\u2019s Dance one more time between Jingles and Ramirez because there can be only One!)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Raylene: I think she&#8217;s had a taste for killing now so she&#8217;ll get rid of them before the campers arrive.\u00a0 I hope Ben gets some redemption.  <strong>(One thing I have been noticing in the early Friday the 13ths, the first 4, is that the cops still show up the next day before the campers.\u00a0 I am curious if that is how this will go down.  One thing is for sure.  If the final girl doesn\u2019t end up in a canoe at the end, then Ryan Murphy is a hack.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Eric:\u00a0 She will kill them all to make way for new campers. He will be a good guy.\u00a0 <strong>(Am I the only one that wants to see Jingles as a camp counselor?)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Melanie:\u00a0 She will try to kill them, but will be killed by Benjamin. But, Benjamin will be killed for being Mr. Jingles. <strong>(Ohhhh, so the cops show up in time to see him kill Margaret, perhaps?\u00a0 That would be a sad ending.  I guess as long as Brooke is in a canoe, I can accept it.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kelly:\u00a0 I think Margaret definitely wants campers, but I&#8217;m not sure if she can let the group live past this night. It&#8217;s up in the air for me on Benjamin right now. I feel for him. It was such a reminder of Lynch&#8217;s Twisty character story.\u00a0 <strong>(JCL plays some of the best characters.\u00a0 He really has honed his craft to add various dimensions to these roles.\u00a0 He was\/is great in AHS, Channel Zero, TWD, Drew Carey Show, The Invitation, and I am sure that I am missing more.\u00a0 At some point or another, he deserves a feature project.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kent:\u00a0 There\u2019s a part of me that thinks that Margaret still wants to have campers show up.\u00a0 I am curious if we will find out proof, one way or the other if there ever were plans to have campers.\u00a0 Here is what I think that we know, and if I am missing something, my bad.  We know that a cook and a nurse were hired.\u00a0 We know that the day before camp opens, they magically get 5 new camp counselors, although I believe one of them was already committed and I don\u2019t recall who it was.\u00a0 Those two things are contradictory on the surface.  How are you planning on running a camp with Margaret, Rita, Bertie, Trevor, and whichever of the 5 committed?  Even if it is a small camp, say, 20 kids, that would be a handful for that small of a staff. Still, she hired Bertie, Rita, and Trevor.\u00a0 Maybe we find out that Margaret had an issue with all 3 of them and planned on killing them.  If that is the case, Margaret would know that Rita wasn\u2019t Rita.  See, this rabbit hole goes pretty F\u2019N deep.  You can make a case for either side of whether Margaret plans on having campers the next day.  I am hoping for an answer by episode 7.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">4.\u00a0 Who is the character that you have the most questions about moving forward?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kristi:\u00a0 Not Montana or Brooke. They both annoy me. \u00a0 <strong>(Thank you for making me laugh.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Raylene: Maybe Donna I don&#8217;t have a character I really am excited about. I guess seeing where Ben&#8217;s story goes.\u00a0 <strong>(Donna could be a sneaky fun character to get more insight on, or we may have seen all of her backstory.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Eric:\u00a0 Richard <strong>(Eric, I can finally say that I can help you out with something.\u00a0 Now, you will see lots of info in this link.  What they managed to leave out was his break in with Brooke, his relationship with Montana, his death at the hands of Mr. Jingles, his satanic resurrection, and dinner with Mr. March and friends.\u00a0 As always, Wikipedia can\u2019t always get things right.  On a serious note, this was totally worth reading for anybody, not at all familiar with Richard Ramirez.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Richard_Ramirez\">https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Richard_Ramirez<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Melanie:\u00a0 Benjamin  <strong>(Benjamin\u2019s childhood and upbringing feel like it\u2019s due, right?)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kelly:\u00a0 Margaret and Brooke.<strong> (Both intrigue the hell out of me.\u00a0 I\u2019d like to see more of Margaret in the time since the initial murders leading up to this camp thing, when we can learn if this is legit or not.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kent:\u00a0 Brooke because I am banking most of my theories on Brooke being absolutely crazy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">5.&nbsp; What was your favorite quote from this week?&nbsp; I will list a few of mine and you can feel free to use others if you like.&nbsp; We have:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A) &#8220;Bubble Gum Barbie&#8217;s into blades?&#8221; &#8211; Richard<br>&#8220;Montana, what&#8217;s with this metal shit? I&#8217;m trying to get shredded, okay? Why can&#8217;t you play something fun, like Cyndi Lauper?&#8221; &#8211; Rod (great 80\u2019s name and shout out to Nightmare on Elm Street)<br>B)  &#8220;Two guys? At the same time?\u00a0 Is he a ninja?&#8221; &#8211; Richard<br>C)  &#8220;I thought making porn was bad.&#8221; &#8211; Xavier followed by &#8220;What?&#8221; &#8211; Trevor &amp; Chet<br>D)  &#8220;You, little girl, are as slippery as a handful of water.&#8221; &#8211; Richard<br>E)  &#8220;Well, fuck you, Margaret.\u00a0 I am the monster that you made me.&#8221;\u00a0 Jingles<br>&#8220;No. You were just a guy who was in the wrong place at the right time.&#8221; Margaret (also a reference to Coven when they played \u201cRight Place, Wrong Time\u201d<br>F)  Something else that you found delightful.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kristi:\u00a0 B made me chuckle. That was my favorite.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Raylene: A. Rod&#8217;s whole interaction with Montana was great and all those short shorts were great in the aerobics class.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Eric:\u00a0 D, that is funny!\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Melanie:\u00a0 B<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kelly:\u00a0 C and E of what you&#8217;ve listed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kent:\u00a0 Okay, I know that quote questions are lame.\u00a0 I know that it gives me zero opportunity to interact with the responses.\u00a0 I still have to commend the writers for giving us so many good quotes this episode.\u00a0 I will say that they are doing a great job because every option was picked at least once.\u00a0 Obviously, I loved all of them.  My favorites were A and E.  A made me laugh so much, just the Cyndi Lauper thing.\u00a0 E was because I loved the slight reference to Coven.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Final Thoughts &#8211; This show appears to be gaining momentum at a high speed.\u00a0 How soon before this show has that one inevitable really lame episode?  Pick an episode number.<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kristi:\u00a0 6?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Raylene:8<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Eric:\u00a0 9<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Melanie:\u00a0 9 Also, I wanted to add that the real Richard Ramirez had terrible crumbling teeth. It would have added to the menacing of his character. <strong>(That is a good point.\u00a0 I just noticed Beta\u2019s teeth on this week\u2019s TWD.\u00a0 I feel like teeth, in general, could be used more effectively in adding to a character.\u00a0 Captain Spaulding had really bad teeth.  Also, Jason Voorhees has really nice eyes.  They stand out so much in part 2 and 3, especially.\u00a0 I found that to be odd.  They weren\u2019t sinister at all.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kelly:\u00a0 Episode 6 or 8. I would have said 5, but I legit can&#8217;t remember what was on the sneak peek for this coming week.\u00a0 <strong>(The only thing from this week\u2019s episode that I can remember is Xavier talking about how his face looks on the cover of TV Guide, or something like that.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kent:\u00a0 6 seems most likely to me because 7 is the night before Halloween and Halloween episodes tend to get special treatment on this show.\u00a0 If not 6, then definitely 8.  If this gets to ep 9 without a lame episode, I will be super impressed.  Next week, I think we are going to try something slightly different.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This week, Trevor, Bertie, and Richard died, but then Richard was resurrected. 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