{"id":16691,"date":"2019-10-02T20:57:22","date_gmt":"2019-10-03T00:57:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.9deuce.tv\/blogs\/?p=16691"},"modified":"2019-10-02T20:57:22","modified_gmt":"2019-10-03T00:57:22","slug":"american-horror-story-9-deuce-1984-ep2-mr-jingles","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/9deuce.tv\/tv\/american-horror-story-9-deuce-1984-ep2-mr-jingles\/","title":{"rendered":"American Horror Story 9 Deuce 1984 Ep:2 &#8220;Mr. Jingles&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This week, we learned more about Richard and Brooke&#8217;s past.  We also learned more about Jonas the ghost.\u00a0 My name is Kent and I write the questions every week and I have a great group of people who answer them.\u00a0 If you are familiar with some of the other TV Show blogs that we do on the site, then you will recognize most of the names.\u00a0 If you would like to participate in the blog and answer my inane questions, please contact me at <a href=\"mailto:kent@9deuce.tv\">kent@9deuce.tv<\/a>.\u00a0 Please enjoy!  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">1.\u00a0 What was the point or purpose of Richard\u2019s (The Night Stalker dude) backstory with his upbringing?\u00a0 Does he have a foot fetish?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kristi:\u00a0 It didn&#8217;t really do anything for me knowing about his past. I could have gone the whole season not knowing what made him a douchewagon. Definitely thinking foot fetish. <strong>(Awww, but it\u2019s important to know how one becomes a creepy douchewagon.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Raylene: Perhaps to give us some reasoning as to why he&#8217;s decided to kill. Most likely it has something to do with his mom. <strong>(Mom issues.\u00a0 Always a classic in the horror biz.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Cece:\u00a0 I honestly don\u2019t know. I think it\u2019s interesting to have done that. I mean, I think she\u2019s going to have him help \u2018cleanse\u2019 the camp.\u00a0 <strong>(I would like a cleansing ritual.\u00a0 Hell, I think I would love a season of AHS Ritual.\u00a0 There\u2019s plenty of content to borrow from and tie in to past seasons.\u00a0 Also, I was a big fan of <\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.9deuce.tv\/blogs\/heretics-2017\/\"><strong>The Heretics<\/strong><\/a><strong> that is currently on Netflix.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Melanie:\u00a0 To make him more human and make people feel for him. AHS does this every season with one or more of the bad guys (Twisty). He definitely has a foot fetish and adds another level of eww. <strong>(Most of the best horror \u201cbad guys\u201d have stories that humanize them. Same applies for superhero films.\u00a0 It\u2019s important for something longer.  A short 90 minutes long film can just have jerks like in ILS, The Strangers, or <\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.9deuce.tv\/blogs\/hell-fest-2018\/\"><strong>Hell Fest<\/strong><\/a><strong> that have no real rhyme or reason.\u00a0 <\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.9deuce.tv\/blogs\/hell-fest-2018\/\"><strong>Hell Fest<\/strong><\/a><strong> was terrible, that is my whole point in this.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kelly: \u00a0 It was pretty dark and upsetting. (You&#8217;ll have to understand that before I had a kid I could stomach so much more, but now that I have one, it&#8217;s hard watching stories like these with children involved.) I think his backstory will unveil a little more of its purpose later, but maybe I&#8217;m just blind to it now. I&#8217;m going to assume he has a foot fetish. Who wouldn&#8217;t?\u00a0 <strong>(Now, I read this as Kelly suggesting that everybody would have a foot fetish.\u00a0 As a man who abhors all things foot-related, I vehemently rejected this.  I was then corrected that the \u201cWho wouldn\u2019t\u201d was suggesting who would think that he had a foot fetish.\u00a0 I felt that I should clarify in case anybody else read it the same as I did.  Also, I have a list of reasons not to trust a person.  Foot fetish is high on that list.  Also, people named Brandon.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kent:&nbsp; We know that Richard was at March\u2019s dinner or party or whatever back in Hotel with Gacy and Dahmer.&nbsp; I would say it is safe to assume that we will get more backstory and this will obviously become more important.&nbsp; Ya know, last week I asked about what seasons would be referenced in this season and only one (technically two as Raylene said all 8 but she should also be penalized for the seasons that she doesn\u2019t get right) of us said Hotel.&nbsp; I will soak in all of your jealousy now.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Also, it needs to be said that Xavier\u2019s (Cody Fern) earring is no mistake.\u00a0 It\u2019s an upside-down cross that is very similar to the ones that were around him in last season\u2019s Apocalypse.\u00a0 I am looking through this but nobody aside from me mentioned Apocalypse.  You suckas need to up your game.  I just need Freak Show and Roanoke to come through.\u00a0 And no, I am not counting the idea of \u201cghosts\u201d as a connection to something like Murder House.  Ghosts have been in how many seasons?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">2.\u00a0 What do you make of Margaret now?\u00a0 Is she a good God-fearing Christian in the positive sense or is she perhaps more on the evil side of that spectrum?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kristi:&nbsp; She&#8217;s batshit crazy, that is what I am positive of. <strong>(I decided to look up the origin of the term \u201cbatshit crazy\u201d and I came across this delightful offering.&nbsp; I love knowing the origins of these phrases that we just use every day.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/idiotidioms.wordpress.com\/tag\/origin-of-idiom-batshit-crazy\/\">https:\/\/idiotidioms.wordpress.com\/tag\/origin-of-idiom-batshit-crazy\/<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Raylene: I think she goes both ways reads the situation and decides which one she&#8217;ll present to the world.\u00a0 <strong>(I think that is a pretty fair assessment.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Cece:\u00a0 I think it\u2019s all a rouse. She\u2019s hiding behind it all, but I think she might seriously end up as another killer.\u00a0 <strong>(If she doesn\u2019t already have kills under her belt, it seems likely that she will by season\u2019s end.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Melanie:\u00a0 She wants to recreate her childhood camp experience and make it not gruesomely horrible. She will kill to keep it perfect. <strong>(A good childhood camp experience should be valued at all costs.\u00a0 I think that we can all agree to that sentiment.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kelly:\u00a0 I mean she reopened the camp knowing full well killings happen and it was likely to bring Jingles back, so I&#8217;d say she&#8217;s a little of both, but maybe all these years obsessing over her revenge is bringing the bad side out.\u00a0 <strong>(Ohhh, I like the idea of obsession with her.\u00a0 It really fits her.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kent:\u00a0 I really want to pick on religious people here because they are the easiest example, but it truly applies to everybody.\u00a0 Everybody lies to themselves to make certain things work.  Whether you want to pin it on God or some religious belief or something written that you just believe in, people twist things around just enough to where they warrant their actions, often while knowing what they are doing is wrong or hypocritical.\u00a0 What I am saying is that Margaret is just like me and you.  It\u2019s like when you have your first bowl of Count Chocula and you\u2019re thinking that you should stop and follow your diet.  Then you look at the nutritional facts or info and you say to yourself what\u2019s another 100-140 calories per serving.  The only difference is eating more versus killing people.\u00a0 Not THAT big of a difference.  Also, I can find Frankenberry and Booberry but no Count Chocula this year.  What the hell?\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">3.\u00a0 What are your thoughts or theories on Jonas the hiker who appears to be a ghost?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kristi:\u00a0 I agree with Raylene. Somehow related to Murder House. <strong>(As you know, sometimes dead is better, just like in <\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.9deuce.tv\/blogs\/pet-sematary-2019\/\"><strong>Pet Sematary<\/strong><\/a><strong>.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Raylene: I say it&#8217;s linked to murder house somehow. <strong>(I want to dismiss you, and therefor Kristi as well, because I don\u2019t think there\u2019s any Murder House connection here.\u00a0 Ghosts have been in so many seasons but often aren\u2019t connected.  Still, I don\u2019t feel like getting a double dose of I told you so from both of you.\u00a0 Just know, I don\u2019t think they\u2019re connected.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Cece:\u00a0 I love that he\u2019s a ghost. It\u2019s pretty interesting to me. I think he will be the \u2018hero\u2019.\u00a0 <strong>(Are you holding out for a hero?\u00a0 It sure sounds like you are.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Melanie:\u00a0 He will keep appearing to be killed until he beats his killer and &#8220;lives&#8221; and gets to move on. \u00a0 <strong>(There we go.\u00a0 That is something rational that I can get behind.\u00a0 Ghosts in films are often used to help guide somebody toward finding out why the ghost got f\u2019d over initially.\u00a0 So this would make sense.  I also highly recommend a film called <\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.9deuce.tv\/blogs\/pact-2012\/\"><strong>The Pact<\/strong><\/a><strong>.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kelly:\u00a0 I&#8217;m always happy when they bring in multi-dimensional aspects into the seasons so to have ghosts is a great thing when characters begin to die. Shows the potential of them coming back which sometimes we need. Maybe Jonas can channel the others who died and create an &#8220;army&#8221; to tackle Jingles with those still alive. <strong>(I agree that it is a clever way to bring characters back on screen.\u00a0 Here\u2019s the thing, this show doesn\u2019t have an Ash, a boomstick, or a chainsaw to take on this army, so I\u2019m a bit concerned.\u00a0 I like Bruce Campbell&#8230;a lot.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kent:\u00a0 Here\u2019s the thing that nobody is talking about and it feels incredibly obvious to me.\u00a0 Jonas isn\u2019t as innocent as he appears.  He\u2019s reappearing as a ghost as a form of punishment.\u00a0 We will find out what horrible thing he did.  Also, I think that he\u2019s related to Margaret.  There\u2019s 2 bold predictions for you.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">4.\u00a0 What were your thoughts on the opening scene with Dr. Karen Hopple getting murdered?\u00a0 Did it seem too soon?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kristi:\u00a0 I dug it. A good slasher is always best when it starts off with a good murder. Not too soon in my book. <strong>(I have already bashed <\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.9deuce.tv\/blogs\/hell-fest-2018\/\"><strong>Hell Fest<\/strong><\/a><strong>, but I did like the opening kill scene.\u00a0 One of the few positives from it.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Raylene: Well since none of the main group has been killed off I felt it was needed. Perhaps she intentionally thought she could change Ben then realized she couldn&#8217;t and started abusing her power.\u00a0 <strong>(Since she decided not to drive off, the least they could have done is have her try to have a bit of a conversation first.\u00a0 It was a poorly executed death from a logic standpoint.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Cece:\u00a0 For sure. I almost felt like she was in it to nod at Halloween and then just to be taken out like that? Kind of a waste.\u00a0 <strong>(Mitch Pileggi says hi.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Melanie:\u00a0 Not soon enough! Her character was unnecessary and only there to tell Margaret that Mr. Jingles escape.\u00a0 <strong>(I don\u2019t know why, but this made me laugh.\u00a0 Her existence was meaningless, at least for now.\u00a0 Now they are going to pull a Cult thing and go back and tell us why she was important instead of just telling us in ep 1 or 2, but that is AHS.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kelly:\u00a0 I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s too soon because she only barely established her role so far. By the end when we see scenes from next week it looks like we&#8217;ll still get to see her again.\u00a0 <strong>(Yeah, which is fine because hopefully, we get some JCL acting, but I hate this storytelling technique when overused.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kent:\u00a0 I thought that she would serve as the Dr. Loomis character, but now it may end up being Mitch Pileggi. It makes sense for him to be the Loomis character and he\u2019s a talented actor if you can forgive that he starred in Shocker.\u00a0 This seemed too soon initially, but not anymore.  By the way, that whole scene was garbage.  I know that it\u2019s a slasher, but she is supposedly an intelligent character.  Why didn\u2019t she drive when she realized who it was, or even if she had a bad vibe knowing that he escaped.\u00a0 Come on Murphy, up your game!!!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">5.\u00a0 Am I the only person that thinks that there is something more sinister about Brooke than what we have been led to believe so far?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kristi:\u00a0 Something is up with her. Like how does all this killing seem to keep happening around her? I feel like we will get a twist at some point. <strong>(A twist or a Twisty?\u00a0 But yeah, something is up with her.\u00a0 The events feel all too convenient.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Raylene: I&#8217;m not sold yet on her being evil. <strong>(You should buy into this.\u00a0 The bandwagon is leaving after episode 3.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Cece:\u00a0 I don\u2019t think anything is odd with her specifically\u2026\u00a0 <strong>(You will soon enough.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Melanie:&nbsp; Okay&#8230;here is my theory, She is Mr. Jingles&#8217; daughter. She is there to get revenge on the camp because they took away her Daddy. Her other story was bullshitariffic!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This is probably super incorrect but I feel better for getting it off my chest. <strong>(Well, you earned points for bullshitariffic.\u00a0 I am really enjoying all of the random word combinations that we have had in this blog.\u00a0 Also, I love theories because it gets your mind thinking.  Even if you get one wrong, it prompts a whole other way of observing the story.\u00a0 I would enjoy seeing this theory play out.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kelly:\u00a0 There could be. Perhaps she&#8217;s the one who actually killed her fiance, dad, and fiance&#8217;s best friend but was in a psychotic episode and that&#8217;s how she remembers it. Maybe instead her fiance cheated with HER best friend and she actually killed them. Just making some random predictions here.\u00a0 <strong>(No, that\u2019s exactly how you SHOULD be looking at this.\u00a0 The 80\u2019s experimented a lot with this ideology.  I would encourage people to check out Jacobs Ladder as it really delves deeper into this idea and is really good, but not scary.\u00a0 I can only recommend the original with Tim Robbins as I haven\u2019t seen the new remake.  I think there is a lot to be learned from that film that will be applicable here.  Seeing is not always believing.\u00a0 Believe that.)\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kent:\u00a0 This bitch is crazy.\u00a0 In another life, I would have tried hooking up with her because I am attracted to crazy bitches.\u00a0 And she probably would have murdered me.  Did this wedding ceremony even happen?  I am doubting it.\u00a0 That would have made the news, people would have heard about something like that happening.  So I\u2019m calling bullshit on the whole story.\u00a0 Her past is sinister.  What is nice is that we have multiple crazy and evil entities all at the same location.  This could wind up being a clusterfuck or it could be quite fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Final Thoughts &#8211; Do you fear that you may lose interest in this season given that a typical story like this would only last 2 hours?\u00a0 Are they just going to keep killing non-important characters as a way to keep the main cast alive for the next 8 episodes?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kristi:\u00a0 I don&#8217;t think I will lose interest. I&#8217;m really enjoying this season. I think the main characters will die off eventually. They had to get the whole story to make sense before they start killing off the main people.\u00a0 We will see plenty of blood this season. <strong>(Good, I am in need of more blood.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Raylene: I&#8217;ll lose interest if they don&#8217;t start killing off some characters.\u00a0 <strong>(That is my biggest fear.\u00a0 Sometimes they dick around too much early on expecting too much patience from the audience, which isn\u2019t fair or smart.\u00a0 Today\u2019s audience wants more instant gratification.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Cece:\u00a0 I think there\u2019s gonna be a whole new element added. I feel like this season may have more than one \u2018story\u2019.\u00a0 <strong>(I agree to an extent.\u00a0 We have Mr. Jingles, Richard Ramirez, Brooke, and Margaret and they could all be killers and crazy.\u00a0 So maybe that\u2019s where we get our side stories that fill up the season.  It\u2019d be better than&#8230;oh I don\u2019t know, something like having an alien abduction story that serves no purpose.\u00a0 Looking at you, Asylum!)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Melanie:\u00a0 I don&#8217;t think I will lose interest, but other people will. I may be one of the only ones left, like other seasons. <strong>(There have been times when you and I were the last ones standing at this blog.\u00a0 It happens.  Traditionally second episodes are never as strong as the first one and it weighs on viewers.\u00a0 By episode 4 or 5 they should rein us back in, but they risk losing viewers and causing complaints and in today\u2019s social media age, that can be bad.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kelly:\u00a0 I already did. I didn&#8217;t finish the episode originally because I wasn&#8217;t captivated. I&#8217;m also ready for some daylight haha. So far they&#8217;ve got it set up as if we aren&#8217;t going to see normalcy at the camp with random disappearances, mysterious lake drownings, or what-have-you.\u00a0 <strong>(I swear I read somewhere that the whole season takes place in one night or something to that effect.\u00a0 I like being the Grim Rapper of bad news.  That wasn\u2019t a typo.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kent:&nbsp; 2 episodes in and nobody has explained something very obvious here.&nbsp; How was Margaret going to run this camp if the group of 5 didn\u2019t randomly decide to all be camp counselors?&nbsp; I get it, we may not see any of the kids if this is all over the course of one night.  That\u2019s fine.  But this also wasn\u2019t a mistake.&nbsp; These people were brought here for a reason.  This wasn\u2019t happenstance.  Maybe all 5 of them have a dark past like Brooke does.  Maybe Xavier is the antichrist and we get some real cleansing.&nbsp; There are some oddities that will get answered, I hope.  If Mr. Jingles escapes, the cops will be notified.  They will ask where he is most likely to go.  They would investigate.  This has to play out and we just have to wait for this to unfold in the usual jumbling of time.&nbsp; I\u2019m here for the long haul and I\u2019ll be whining at the end when some of my burning questions aren\u2019t answered.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Also, in an episode titled Mr. Jingles, there wasn\u2019t much about him.\u00a0 Quite misleading title, for now at least.\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This week, we learned more about Richard and Brooke&#8217;s past. 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