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By now, it’s been over 2 weeks since the show ended. I wanted to wait a little bit before releasing this one. Whether you were happy, angry, satisfied, or any emotion, you absolutely felt something by the time the final credits rolled. We are here to discuss as much as possible. Please check out our podcast where we discuss this episode on Kenter At Your Own Risk<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name is Kent and each week, I will ask some questions that I hope don’t always have a clear cut answer and see what everybody’s opinions are. It’s a super simple concept. Since Chris T. and I do a podcast already called Kenter At Your Own Risk, we are spending the next 6 weeks going on and on about this show before we get back to our typical horror film conversations. If you like what we’re doing, share this with your friends. If you would like to get involved with the blog, please contact me at kent@9deuce.tv<\/a>. Any comments in bold type<\/strong> are made by me. Please enjoy. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

1. \u00a0Dany\u2019s death was a very intimate kill. \u00a0Did this work better than what you had anticipated or would you have preferred something different?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Chris T.: \u00a0First off kudos to D&D for the framing and editing at the beginning if this episode. So really awesome imagery capping with the Daenerys\/Drogon’s wing image. Also for setting up a palpable feeling of dread. Up until Dany got got, I felt like anyone could die at any moment. I liked the episode entirely up through this point. One of Emilia and Kit’s best scenes. I thought her death played out naturalistically with Jon being the one to do it. \u00a0(I absolutely loved the amazing imagery. \u00a0That will go down as one of the coolest images they ever did on the show.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jim: \u00a0I liked the way the scene was done. \u00a0As Chris said, it was set up so you felt anyone could die at any point. \u00a0Dany seemed invincible, Jon, Tyrion and the rest seemed defeated to their fate. \u00a0The plan was hatched as a last effort of a dead man imp. Who knew if Jon would do it\u2026. the scene really played out beautifully. \u00a0She needed to go, and I can\u2019t really imagine a better way. (The feeling of constant dread up to her death was incredibly executed. \u00a0The payoff of all the unexpected deaths for 8 seasons paid off big time here.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Raylene: \u00a0I thought it was done well I guess at that point you needed more of an intimate death. \u00a0She had gotten so power hungry and thought she was untouchable at that point. (In my head, I wanted something bigger, but this worked on numerous levels. \u00a0With everything being so big this season, the biggest death being this intimate was a nice way of handling it.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Chris B.: \u00a0I think so. \u00a0Jon loved her and didn\u2019t want to do it, but knew he had to. \u00a0I think he wanted her to know that. That being said, I wish she had said something about Sansa bending the knee or else, which would have forced Jon\u2019s hand. (Now that you mention it, a bit more trash talking from Dany would have been solid.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Johnny: \u00a0I thought her death before Drogon burned the throne was well done from an emotional stance. As a viewer being connected to Dany, even though she went mad queen in the end. I was sad to see her go. But having Jon kill her I believe was of course the best person to do the deed. ???? \u00a0(I think for Dany fans, Jon killing her was probably the most acceptable murderer, or possibly Jorah, had he survived.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kent: \u00a0This worked really well given the circumstances. \u00a0Would i have preferred Sansa or Arya torturing her to death\u2026..of course I would have. \u00a0I used to be a big fan of Dany before my eyes were opened around season 4. Then it became that I was more excited to see Jorah. \u00a0I don\u2019t think that Dany deserved this dignified of a death. She was a shitty person. Still, the caveat of within the context of this season, it worked. \u00a0Jon should definitely fall in love with more women in the future. Drogon melting the throne was the best part. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

2. \u00a0Dany\u2019s death was the only major one in this episode. \u00a0Were you happy with that or would you have preferred more death?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Chris T.: \u00a0In a way I am glad so many characters got to live, but by all rights more should have died. \u00a0(Yeah, they didn\u2019t owe it to us, but geez, it was like a swerve or twist in a movie that didn\u2019t necessarily need to happen.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jim: \u00a0I really expected more heads to roll, but I liked the outcomes presented by the episodes. \u00a0This never gave the \u201cJim was right\u201d opportunity I wanted. It was a little optimistic for a dark so as it was though. \u00a0(It sucks because I had hundreds of \u201cJim was right\u201d shirts made. \u00a0On the plus side, my \u201cJim was wrong\u201d shirts sold out in minutes.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Raylene: \u00a0I think we had enough deaths this short season. \u00a0(I would love a death toll because I am unsure how the Dothraki and Unsullied math work.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Chris B.: \u00a0I was fine with it. \u00a0Dany was such an important character, it was fitting the finale episode revolved around only her and her death. \u00a0(I read that as \u201can impotent character\u201d and I was nodding my head, then thought that you wouldn\u2019t have written that. \u00a0So sad\u2026.terrible day.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Johnny: \u00a0Dany being the only main death was fine, but definitely surprising not seeing more for GOT. Then again season 8 didn’t feel much like GOT to begin with. :\/ I think I enjoyed episode 2 the most as to watch one as a stand-alone, then episode 5\u2026 The rest honestly I was a sadly disappointed. \u00a0(I think episodes 1 & 2 were possibly my favorites of the season, although 4 made me laugh the most.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kent: \u00a0Dany probably should have killed a big character in a public execution. \u00a0Then when Jon killed her, it would have felt like a bigger \u201cfuck you, Dany!\u201d moment. \u00a0And that is the thing, Dany deserved a much bigger fuck you than she got. I would have had one more big death, and it would have been Arya. \u00a0It\u2019s not like her presence added anything aside from embarrassment in the latter half of the episode. I feel that Dany\u2019s death got romanticized, and it kinda pisses me off, in hindsight.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

3. \u00a0Given the 6 episode limit, for whatever reasons, was this as good of a way to end it given what they left us with at the end of the previous episode? Also, now that we have hindsight, would you have preferred a normal 10 episode season?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Chris T.: \u00a0After I watched this, I said we didn’t get the ending we deserved, but the best one we could have after episodes 3-5. Ten episodes for both season 7&8 would have nailed it. The compression killed plotlines, created plot holes, and hurt more than helped. \u00a0(And this is why I argue that not only was Breaking Bad a better TV series, but this is on the level of the Walking Dead now, given the past 2 seasons. \u00a0Chris didn\u2019t agree with me. I guess you\u2019d have to listen to Kenter At Your Own Risk if you want to hear how it played out.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jim: \u00a0I liked the episode, but really felt this season needed at least 2 maybe 3 more episodes. \u00a0The last episode itself should have been 2 or 3 episodes. One ending with Danys death, one with the events of the meeting and all events leading up to it (who reached out to set the meeting, with no ruler in King\u2019s Landing. \u00a0Who decided to wait to execute Jon and Tyrion\u2026. and many more questions), and one for the aftermath\u2026. we easily could have made the long night a second episode as well. I didn\u2019t hate the story, we just needed finer brushstrokes. \u00a0(For a show that has done pretty good with details, by and large, they clearly were clueless on the finer points the past 2 seasons. \u00a0We can all blame George.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Raylene: \u00a0I would’ve liked longer season spent more time with the battles especially The Night King and The King’s Landing. (Yeah, I would have enjoyed a bit more Night King, myself.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Chris B.: \u00a0Overall, while I have some issues, I am ok with how it ended. \u00a0I am definitely not a fan of the shorter seasons. If they had spent more time on several storylines, I feel that most people wouldn\u2019t be upset and think everything was rushed. \u00a0(I am not usually a fan of people bitching about artistic decisions, but in this case, shorter seasons robbed the fans and the show of better things and I have yet to hear a reasonable argument to the contrary.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Johnny: \u00a0It upsets me that we had the opportunity to do more episodes but for whatever \u201cbrilliant\u201d reason they brought it down to 6. I would’ve most definitely preferred to have 10 episodes. These characters and this story we’ve been invested in deserve a worthy ending. Having just 6 was simply not enough time and clearly season 8 was beyond rushed. *sigh* <\/p>\n\n\n\n

I wish I could say I wasn’t disappointed but I also wish they didn’t rush it for some ambiguous unspoken reason. (That sums up so much of what we are all feeling man. \u00a0The \u201cbrilliant\u201d reasons are clearly above my rationalization.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kent: \u00a0The seventh and eighth season being shortened was such a bad move. \u00a0We said it then, we said it during, and in hindsight, we can see how this story could have been told better with more time. \u00a0We didn\u2019t really get to explore Sansa much this season, or Varys, or Bronn, etc. This was about as good of an ending that we could expect given what they left us, but that doesn\u2019t get them off the hook for not giving a more fleshed out story and season. \u00a0It surely shouldn\u2019t have been budget. The single most talked about TV show of the year. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

4. \u00a0Soooo Tyrion is now the \u201cHand\u201d for a third time. \u00a0Did he deserve this position? Should it be considered an honor or a duty?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Chris T.: \u00a0Tyrion had the best and the worst scenes this episode. His scene in the cell with Jon was maybe my top scene in the whole series. His scene at the trial was absolutely fucking retarded. More on that later. And I really liked the small council scene. \u00a0(I\u2019m just gonna nod. \u00a0We were in agreement on this whole thing. \u00a0That scene with Jon was a piece of art. That trial scene was a piece of shit.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jim: \u00a0Who else has his ability and moral grounding. \u00a0Bran is so logical, he is kind of terrifying, so having a human\/moralist Tyrion grounding him makes sense. \u00a0Is there a better choice? Maybe Davos or Sam, but I don\u2019t think Tyrion is undeserving. (I think Davos is the only one who could make a compelling case, but Tyrion was raised to know so much of the inner workings. \u00a0Davos was probably great in other ways. Tough call. It\u2019s like splitting my nonexistent hairs.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Raylene: To me it’s more of a punishment for his mistakes he made now it’s time for him to pay the Piper.  (I wasn\u2019t sure whether to go with a Rowdy Roddy Piper video or this gem that needs to be in a good horror movie.  I went with creepy song for obvious reasons because in some way, Tyrion was a bit of a pied piper.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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