{"id":12309,"date":"2018-08-12T10:33:20","date_gmt":"2018-08-12T10:33:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.9deuce.tv\/blogs\/?p=12309"},"modified":"2018-08-12T10:33:20","modified_gmt":"2018-08-12T10:33:20","slug":"orange-is-the-new-black-season-6-9-deuce-part-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/9deuce.tv\/tv\/orange-is-the-new-black-season-6-9-deuce-part-1\/","title":{"rendered":"Orange is the New Black Season 6 – 9 Deuce Part 1"},"content":{"rendered":"

Welcome everybody to the Orange is the New Black Season 6 9 Deuce discussion!\u00a0 I have split this into 2 parts.\u00a0 I will provide a link to the other part a little further down.\u00a0 My name is Kent, and I am the guy who came up with the questions.\u00a0 I also leave comments in\u00a0bold<\/strong> every once in awhile.\u00a0 I have 3 ladies here to help me out, start up a bit of a conversation.\u00a0 So thank you to Cece, Kristi, and Jamie for taking time out of your schedule to help out.\u00a0 While I do enjoy the show, I am by far the most negative person here, to nobody’s surprise.\u00a0 If you have any thoughts on these questions or just want to voice your opinion, please leave a comment.\u00a0 I’ll read them and respond.\u00a0 Without further adieu, let’s do this.<\/p>\n

Part 2<\/a><\/p>\n

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The First 9<\/p>\n

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  1. \u00a0Piper and Alex are finally \u201cprison married\u201d. \u00a0Did you feel that they progressed in any capacity, or did this feel like the same old story and same old mistakes?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    Cece: \u00a0I think these 2 are still my least favorite characters in the show, however, even insufferable cunts need their good moments. (Excuse my language) \u00a0<\/span>(Woah woah woah, we don\u2019t say insufferable around here. \u00a0Shame!)<\/b><\/p>\n

    Kristi: Same old story. Same old mistake. Alex can do way better. Piper is my least favorite character by far. Fingers crossed her being out means less of her. \u00a0<\/span>(I would be so happy if Piper was out or just had very small cameos.)<\/b><\/p>\n

    Jamie: \u00a0In previous seasons Piper was trying to be the badass and this season she brought back more of trying to follow the rules. Where Alex was coming across like she was being good but was getting pulled into all bad. <\/span>(Really, isn\u2019t that Alex\u2019s MO at this point? \u00a0She gets dragged down by those around her, which sucks because she\u2019s not a bad character otherwise.)<\/b><\/p>\n

    Kent: \u00a0For a main character, Piper is horrible. \u00a0She isn\u2019t my least favorite character on the show, hello Daya, she is easily top 5 least favorite. \u00a0This was the same old nonsense, in my opinion. They were doing things without communicating and kept getting deeper down the rabbit hole until Alex was going to start working for Carol for drugs. \u00a0Seriously? 6 seasons in, she should be smarter. I like Alex, but Piper brings her down to a point where overall I am fine with not seeing Alex.<\/span><\/p>\n

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    1. \u00a0We met a lot of new characters this season. \u00a0What new characters stood out for you in a positive or negative way? \u00a0Please feel free to insult Badison as much as possible at this point in the blog. \u00a0Did the Carol and Barbara rivalry seem foolish?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

      Cece: \u00a0My new favorites include: Daddy, probably. The Barb\/Carol saga was fun but I\u2019m glad they\u2019re gone.<\/span><\/p>\n

      Kristi: I do like \u2018Daddy\u2019. She was kinda a badass in her life and I dig that. Badison needs to go away. Unfortunately, with Carol out, she will probably end up trying to take over. Sister rivalry is one thing but then taking each other out at the end was pretty dumb. <\/span><\/p>\n

      Jamie: \u00a0The story of Barb and Carol was a crazy story and you could tell they were gonna end up trying to scheme together i was surprised how quickly the story was wrapped up from beginning to end. \u00a0Badison WORST CHARACTER EVER annoying and completely pointless, and she should not have been treated like a lead at all! I really liked Daddy although she obviously is easily manipulated. I think i just have a soft spot for the lesbians lol<\/span><\/p>\n

      Kent: \u00a0Aside from the fact that Carol and Barb\u2019s sister was named Little Debbie, I struggled getting into any of the new inmates. \u00a0I loathed, hated, despised, couldn\u2019t stand Badison. I hate her accent with a passion. I had that accent anyway, but then add her character to it and I wanted her to have a train pulled on her. \u00a0Barb and Carol were irritating, although I didn\u2019t mind their younger versions as much. I don\u2019t understand why there is such support for Daddy. I found her almost as awful as Badison to be honest. \u00a0I thought her backstory was shitty, and she was a shitty person. The only good thing about Daddy is that she got Daya fucked up on pills. The best new characters were the prison guards, especially the bigger lady and the guy who was the commissioner of their fantasy league. \u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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      1. \u00a0CO McCullough was still feeling the effects from the riot. \u00a0Did you feel that they gave her story arc a proper story or did it feel unsatisfying by the end?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

        Cece: \u00a0Meh. Like, realistically she should not have step foot back in the prison without proper therapy and stuff. This is not cool. This makes her ultra sensitive and that one time she got triggered went against her character.<\/span><\/p>\n

        Kristi: I think it made sense. She whined a little too much for me but I get the reason. PTSD is no joke. I did like that she finally stood up at the end. Hopefully, she has regained some strength from that.<\/span><\/p>\n

        Jamie: \u00a0I feel they did well with her story displaying the PTSD she was suffering from.<\/span><\/p>\n

        Kent: I thought it was probably the best story arc of the whole season, and it didn\u2019t feel overly forced. \u00a0While I don\u2019t feel that she would have been allowed back so quickly, the little bits and pieces throughout the season were very nice. \u00a0It was a proper story with a slow build, starting about needing the extra money and not being able to sleep to the cutting and the anger. \u00a0I cannot think of a story arc this season that was better.<\/span><\/p>\n

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        1. \u00a0Red had a very difficult season, she was betrayed (at least in her opinion) by her prison family. \u00a0Then she joined allegiances with Carol. In the end though, she let her rage toward Freida consume her and blew her opportunity to see her grandchildren and son. \u00a0Did you feel that this made sense for her character based on everything we know about her?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

          Cece: \u00a0Red has always been a fighter. She\u2019s always been one of my absolute favorite characters, as well. I think she really let herself go since Piscatella got the best of her. It\u2019s a shame. <\/span><\/p>\n

          Kristi: No way. I hated that. She literally cried all season about wanting to see her grandkids and completely blew it. It made me dislike her and she has been a favorite for me.<\/span><\/p>\n

          Jamie: \u00a0Red’s family has turned into her prison family so i really wasn’t completely surprised . Red just usually had in the past, other people do her dirty work. But roles have obviously changed her. \u00a0<\/span>(Good point about how her role change really affected her mindset just as much as anything else.)<\/b><\/p>\n

          \u00a0<\/span>Kent: \u00a0Kristi basically summed up my thoughts. \u00a0She has been consistently in my top 3-5 favorite characters, through everything, and this season, i didn\u2019t even like her. \u00a0She brought most of this on herself and it wasn\u2019t a case where I can justify it. Very sad what they did with one of my favorites. \u00a0I found it uncharacteristic of her to throw away such a valuable opportunity.<\/span><\/p>\n

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          1. \u00a0Speaking of Freida, she was heavily featured for another season, but this felt different. \u00a0She was more vulnerable, less in control, and often scared for her life. Did you like seeing this desperate side of her character?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

            Cece: \u00a0This made me see another side of her, which was interesting. She also sort of annoyed me though, because she kept playing mind games with Suzanne all for her benefit.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Kristi: Not so much. She was a bit too cautious for me. I would have liked to see her fight, rather than hide all season. I did like when she figured out the mole but the rest of the time, she was just hiding out. And it pissed me off when she told Suzanne she wasn’t her friend. Suzanne is the sweetest person on the show and that was some bullshit. <\/span><\/p>\n

            Jamie: \u00a0No Not at all!! I fell in love with Frieda’s character last season. Showing her past prison experience made a lot of what she did make sense.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Kent: \u00a0I love Freida, another personal favorite of mine the past 3 or so seasons. \u00a0Love her matter of fact, logical way of looking at things. I wish we could have had more of that, but when I reflected on it, she did the smart thing. \u00a0It just wasn\u2019t good TV. Doing the smart thing isn\u2019t always the entertaining thing, which is true of the inverse. Suzanne was the perfect person for Freida to manipulate. \u00a0Freida is getting some hate, and Cindy deserves even more, which we will get to. Freida is a smart survivor above all else, which means making tough decisions. Still among my favorites.<\/span><\/p>\n

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            1. \u00a0Tastee\u2019s story revolved around her being held responsible for her actions in the riot. \u00a0Given her circumstances, would you have gone to trial or accepted the deal they offered her? \u00a0Was there a single doubt in your mind that she may not be found guilty? Did this story take up too much time of the season?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

              Cece: \u00a0I think she did what was right and had herself a fair trial. The fact that she fought for something she really believed in, shows that she has a lot of drive. We all know she didn\u2019t do anything, so, it was hard to see her get hit with the guilty conviction. <\/span><\/p>\n

              Kristi: I wanted her to take the deal. The way this show has been, I think we all knew she would be found guilty. I was hoping for the not guilty result but wasn’t surprised when it was guilty. I don’t think it took too much time. Better than having to see Piper or Badison!<\/span><\/p>\n

              Jamie: \u00a0I think she made the right decision going to trial. Especially because this was a cover up situation and we know she didn’t do it. I was hopeful Black Cindy would come around sooner or Suzanne would be capable to come to her defense. \u00a0I wasn’t completely shocked she was found guilty once it all played out. I didn’t think we were going to find out the jury’s decision by the end of the season so i did not feel it was dragged out.<\/span><\/p>\n

              Kent: \u00a0I don\u2019t know what show these ladies above me are watching, but shit, Tastee is a fucking idiot in my book. \u00a0She is the one that should be despised. She blew, absolutely BLEW the negotiations at the prison during the riot. \u00a0If she wanted to be a leader and have everybody\u2019s best interests in mind, she wouldn\u2019t have done what she did. I\u2019m glad she was stupid enough to go to trial. \u00a0You ain\u2019t winning that case, no matter how self righteous you\u2019re feeling. She was wrong, wrong, wrong every step of the way. Of course this show wasn\u2019t going to have someone who was somewhat representative of the black struggle win because that\u2019s not what this show does, right? \u00a0This show only paints victims, which is part of the decline in quality. Not everybody is a victim. Some people deserve to triumph, and they do in the real world. This is just propaganda.<\/span><\/p>\n

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              1. \u00a0Cindy lied to Tastee for the majority of the season, got in Suzanne\u2019s head, and did a radio show with Flacca. \u00a0Should Cindy have really felt THAT guilty over what she did? Did you like the whole radio show concept? Did you miss Maritza\u2019s presence with Flacca?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                Cece: \u00a0Cindy should have felt guilty the whole time. She should have actually told her the truth and try to really rectify it. I liked the radio show. Cindy is a great personality and so is Flacca. Maritza is a good pair with Flacca too but this gave Flacca some time with someone else.<\/span><\/p>\n

                Kristi: Abso-f@$king-lutely. That was not ok! They are supposed to be girls. You don’t do that. The radio show was just whatever to me. I don’t really have a strong feeling either way. I did miss Maritza a bit. They are better as a team. A little annoying, but their characters are better together. \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

                Jamie: \u00a0Yes she should\u2019ve felt guilty she had an innocent woman in jail knowing that she did not do it. I loved the radio show and yes I did miss the duo of Flacca and Maritza.<\/span><\/p>\n

                Kent: \u00a0Cindy is trash and has been for awhile. \u00a0Her backstory is annoying, like she wasn\u2019t a good human being. \u00a0Yes, she is funny sometimes, but she is a pretty lousy character. \u00a0Cindy shouldn\u2019t have felt guilty over trying to save her ass in prison. \u00a0It was one of the realest aspects of the season was Cindy looking out for herself. \u00a0The reality is, most of us would do the same damn thing. I know, you\u2019re reading this thinking \u201cNo, not me Kent. \u00a0Ride or die mother fucker.\u201d Stop it. If you can save yourself years off of a prison sentence, you do you. I missed Maritza big time. \u00a0Flacca was perhaps in my top 3 characters this season behind Caputo and Suzanne. I love that Flacca got to reveal that most of what she does is an act. \u00a0That was compelling to me.<\/span><\/p>\n

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                1. \u00a0Daya got hooked on drugs and started a relationship with Daddy, while we spent SO MUCH TIME on her mom, Aleida, on the outside who ended up help bring drugs into prison, via her boyfriend\/CO. \u00a0Which of these two characters annoyed you the most?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                  Cece: \u00a0Daya. She is really acting childish and impulsive. Aleida didn\u2019t really annoy me too much. <\/span><\/p>\n

                  Kristi: Daya for sure. I know she is upset about the whole life sentence thing but she’s acting like a child. And how do pain meds result in heroin so quickly? This season was what, 3 weeks in real time? I don’t know how the progression happens but it doesn’t seem realistic for me. \u00a0<\/span>(Yeah, the realism was lacking, in my opinion. \u00a0It usually is, but that was a giant leap of faith.)<\/b><\/p>\n

                  Jamie: \u00a0Daya annoyed me more than any of these characters she has completely given up. \u00a0I feel like she needs the attention so bad and wants to get what she wants and that’s it. That’s how she ended up in there to begin with. <\/span>(I love everything you just said.)<\/b><\/p>\n

                  Kent: \u00a0I am choosing Daya, which most of you know, is my least favorite character on a season to season basis. \u00a0With that being said, the ladies above me have done an excellent job calling her out, so let me bitch about Aleida, who is played by the great Elizabeth Rodriguez. \u00a0I think she is a wonderful actress. Anyway, so you get out of prison, and are just incompetent on the outside. Seriously, she bought into the stupid saleswoman with the shakes? \u00a0Come on, Aleida\u2019s character is supposedly smarter than that. She was pretty smart on the inside, so a con like that shouldn\u2019t have worked on her. I hated that she was okay with doing something despicable like bring drugs into prison while seeing what a mess her daughter has become. \u00a0Yes, Daya is a lost cause, but the whole idea of making money via drugs in order to get your kids living with you, so frustrating as a fan! <\/span><\/p>\n

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                  1. \u00a0Gloria Mendoza and Maria Ruiz had their time to tell their stories that intersected at times. \u00a0Which of these two lady\u2019s stories were better, in your opinion?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                    Cece: \u00a0Honestly, I have always really liked Gloria, however, I don\u2019t think they used her right this season. It was nice to see Maria try to do right by everyone though. \u00a0<\/span>(I totally agree that Gloria was not utilized properly this season.)<\/b><\/p>\n

                    Kristi: I actually liked Ruiz\u2019s story better this time. \u00a0Last season I was for Gloria and was pissed but I’m leaning towards Ruiz now. She tried to actually move on and try to better herself. Gloria just wallowed in her shit. I just respect that. Forgive and probably not forget but at least try to not be a royal bitch. \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

                    Jamie: \u00a0Gloria’s she told more of the truthful part of what had happened. i feel bad for Ruiz but she definitely wasn\u2019t thinking of her baby during the riot when she wanted to be top dog. <\/span>(Maria totally lost perspective in her quest for top dog. \u00a0Isn\u2019t that true in every prison show? Hell, it may be even true in real life. \u00a0How much are you willing to sacrifice of your former\/outside life, to gain power in your current situation. \u00a0That is a theme in Wentworth constantly.)<\/b><\/p>\n

                    Kent: \u00a0I wasn\u2019t feeling either character this season. \u00a0I typically like Gloria better, but the past 2 seasons haven\u2019t been very strong for her. \u00a0I will admit, I kinda liked Maria\u2019s ruthless aggression from the past. She was good in that role, even if she wasn\u2019t likable. \u00a0I think I like Maria\u2019s arc better this season.<\/span><\/p>\n

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