{"id":10677,"date":"2017-12-11T01:08:53","date_gmt":"2017-12-11T01:08:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.9deuce.tv\/blogs\/?p=10677"},"modified":"2017-12-11T01:08:53","modified_gmt":"2017-12-11T01:08:53","slug":"the-walking-dead-9-deuce-s8-ep7-time-for-after","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/9deuce.tv\/tv\/the-walking-dead-9-deuce-s8-ep7-time-for-after\/","title":{"rendered":"The Walking Dead 9 Deuce: S:8 Ep:7 &#8220;Time For After&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hey everybody, we are gearing up some big shocking midseason finale.\u00a0 I brought along some friends to answer my silly questions about the episode.\u00a0 Hopefully the midseason finale lives up to the hype.\u00a0 Always feel free to leave your own thoughts in the comments section.\u00a0 All messages in\u00a0<strong>bold<\/strong> are written by Kent, and I know damn well that some of you just come to read my responses to you.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>The 9<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0Eugene was clearly afraid to name Dwight to Negan toward the end of the episode. \u00a0Do you think that Eugene is afraid of Dwight OR do you think Eugene feared that Negan may not take his side due to Dwight being there to refute the accusations?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-10678\" src=\"http:\/\/www.9deuce.tv\/blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/Dwight-Eugene-Sit-Down-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob: \u00a0Neither. \u00a0I think Eugene thinks Dwight may be right and doesn\u2019t know what the winning side will be\u2026 <\/span><b>(Despite my long winded answer, this is surely part of it and Eugene will do Eugene 99% of the time. \u00a0He is playing as well as he could have so for his survival.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: \u00a0Eugene is nervous that Don Negan will react by putting both in custody and the loss of his freedom will crush him. \u00a0<\/span><b>(The whole hand kissing thing was surely a high point of the episode, at least for me. \u00a0I think it was one of the most subtle scenes.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi: \u00a0I think he is afraid of Negan. If he finds out he has known and kept it from him for so long, he will be done with him.<\/span><b>(He most certainly is. \u00a0I am watching the marathon now. And the 11th episode of last season was really good to see because I think it set the stage for Eugene\u2019s actions this week.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: \u00a0I think that despite his bravado, Eugene is still conflicted about what\u2019s the right thing to do. \u00a0He has had multiple opportunities to turn Dwight in, and Negan will believe him. \u00a0<\/span><b>(Do you think that it has gone from do whatever to stay alive mentality to Eugene actively seeking the morally right options, while still killing himself?)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: \u00a0Eugene wanted to name him when they were alone it seemed perhaps when he looked at Dwight\u2019s burnt face he felt sorry for him. \u00a0<\/span><b>(Yeah, that could play a role in it as well. \u00a0Whatever EUgene doesn\u2019t know about Dwight\u2019s character, I think he has inferred the rest.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0I oftentimes have no issue giving you a confident and competent answer. \u00a0This one, it\u2019s incredibly tough, that\u2019s why I led with it. \u00a0It did feel like Eugene was set to rat out Dwight prior to everybody coming into the room. \u00a0Eugene strikes me as a guy who adamantly hates conflict. \u00a0In a closed off situation with little fear of repercussion, Eugene feels comfortable manipulating. \u00a0Once he lost that comfort zone, he couldn\u2019t risk it. \u00a0It didn\u2019t go as planned, and Eugene bailed. \u00a0The fear of Negan\u2019s response knowing that Dwight would have a rebuttal, not so good for Eugene. \u00a0I will also add to my belief by bring up S7 Ep11, which featured Eugene\u2019s first day at Sanctuary, the pickles and when Dwight manipulated Negan which led to the OG Dr. Carson getting tossed into the fire. \u00a0I struggle with Eugene trusting Dwight.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol start=\"2\">\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0It feels safe to assume that Rick would welcome Eugene back to the group and allow Dwight the opportunity to join the group. \u00a0Who do you feel would be more welcome from the group as a whole: Eugene the traitor or Dwight the Savior?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob: \u00a0Eugene. \u00a0He is weak and that is understood but his brain in priceless. \u00a0<\/span><b>(Yeah, his brain is priceless. \u00a0I think of human nature, and we too frequently presume somebody is guilty until proven innocent. \u00a0This is not a new concept, but obviously has some recent examples. \u00a0I wonder if that is amplified in the ZA or if people are more forgiving for the sake of hope.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: \u00a0It doesn&#8217;t matter the Ricktards are a fractured group with the leader having no idea what his followers are doing. Eugene is viewed as a harmless entity who people want to love for his uniqueness. \u00a0<\/span><b>(You just described me.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi: \u00a0I have to go with Dwight. Eugene should not be forgiven. \u00a0<\/span><b>(Yeah, I think the group would see Dwight as a major victory and possible turning point in the war.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: \u00a0Eugene. \u00a0I think they could accept that he did what he did out of fear. \u00a0Dwight kind of killed a bunch of Alexandrians. <\/span><b>(That is a fair point. \u00a0Comparatively, I think Alexandrians have like a 5 to 1 kill ratio compared to the Saviors. \u00a0Could they possibly rationalize that the enemy of their enemy is now their friend?)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: \u00a0I would say Dwight too many will view Eugene as a traitor now. \u00a0<\/span><b>(Yeah, I am sure that a good chunk of the \u201cgood guys\u201d know that they got info on where all of the lookouts and whatnot are. \u00a0All it takes is a few whispers. \u00a0I think he\u2019s going to viewed as a hero to some.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0Dwight is my answer. \u00a0Right now, he has to be more popular among the good guys unless only a handful of people are privy to the knowledge of what Dwight is doing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol start=\"3\">\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0Does Jadis find Rick to be a good subject for sculpting, or does she do it more as a mind game?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob: \u00a0Neither, again. \u00a0This is just there way of doing things. \u00a0I am not sure Jadis truly knows how to play a head game. \u00a0<\/span><b>(While the show hasn\u2019t given us any background on Jadis, we do know that she rose to power. \u00a0Typically, you rise to power with brute strength or with outsmarting those who are in your way. \u00a0If I had to take a guess, I would take her as the smart type and not the brute force.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: \u00a0Jadis is smart and knows where her bread gets buttered. She wants Rick to keep thinking she&#8217;s crazy as that easily allows her to switch sides as her needs see fit. \u00a0<\/span><b>(Yeah, really she is among the smartest people in this whole show in my estimation. \u00a0She has helped create a shorter language or use of it. \u00a0She has negotiated with the 2 head honchos. \u00a0She\u2019s basically playing the game of thrones at the moment.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi: \u00a0A mind game.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: \u00a0It\u2019s a mind game. \u00a0I think she is smarter than she lets on. \u00a0<\/span><b>(Wouldn\u2019t you like to know what she did in life for work prior to the ZA? \u00a0I bet she drank a lot of wine and had a job that annoyed her.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: \u00a0I think it\u2019s part of the mind game but obviously she doesn\u2019t realize he\u2019s super cena rick. <\/span><\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=uzb1SaAdKWE<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0Mindgame seems like the narrative that they wish to tell us. \u00a0So I will lay out my crazy idea. \u00a0Jadis was a person who worked in the art world, maybe had her own small gallery. \u00a0I think that she loved wine. \u00a0Has probably gone to nude beaches, one of those free spirits. \u00a0For that reason, I am going to say that I think that she has thing for Rick, not necessarily romantic, but a fascination at the very least.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol start=\"4\">\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0Dwight shot down Eugene\u2019s music kite. \u00a0What practical purpose did this serve for Dwight?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob: \u00a0Eugene, about to make the big problem disappear that he has been charged with doing\u2026 \u00a0Has nothing at that moment to stand on. \u00a0He wouldn\u2019t have much political capital to spend on Negan since he hasn\u2019t solved the problem. \u00a0<\/span><b>(I like the bit about the political capital. \u00a0I think that is a very good possibility. \u00a0It\u2019s better than any answer that I had.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: \u00a0Dwight is weak. He knows Eugene is right and he&#8217;s jealous that Don Negan prefers Eugene to him. He shot down the kite to prove to Eugene that he will foil all his plans. \u00a0<\/span><b>(Is Dwight becoming the Fredo fo TWD? \u00a0If not Fredo, is there a better character choice for Dwight?)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi: He is working with Rick so he is just following the plan on taking Negan down. \u00a0<\/span><b>(Dwight is a soldier, and he is doing his best. \u00a0As I have alluded to in the past, Eugene and Dwight become 2 of the more fascinating characters in the comics. \u00a0Whether that applies to the show is up in the air. \u00a0It is cool to see Dwight\u2019s commitment.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: \u00a0I think his role in the plan is to ensure the walkers do not leave. <\/span><b>(There\u2019s a part of me that feels that Dwight is following a plan that he feels may get him killed, and you get a lot of depressed feelings from Dwight. \u00a0I felt that this was a perfect example of Dwight\u2019s mindset of carrying out a mission, no matter the cost, which is to ensure the walkers don\u2019t leave, as you said.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: \u00a0Dwight knew that this would draw the walkers away and enable Negan to go retaliate which would be more deaths. \u00a0<\/span><b>(In all fairness, both ways leads to more deaths. \u00a0This is just what Dwight sees as his way out, in one aspect or another.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0Dwight is a bit of a self serving soldier in that he does want to \u201cdo the right thing\u201d and probably help Rick\u2019s plan come together, but I truly believe that Dwight at times strikes me as a Man on Fire to reference the great Denzel film. \u00a0Okay, maybe not great because the kinetic style of filmography was shit, but still, a great story.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol start=\"5\">\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0At the end of the day, do you think that Eugene fully believes in the concept that he is a Savior, and that he saves people, or does simply believe that he is &#8220;Negan&#8221; to stay alive?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-10679\" src=\"http:\/\/www.9deuce.tv\/blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/Eugene-Thinking-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob: \u00a0He is a Negan to stay alive but plays a Savior to save people on TV. \u00a0<\/span><b>(This made me giggle.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: \u00a0Eugene is a perfect example of the saviors way of thinking. Don Negan is providing protection and providing for his people he gives them the confidence to survive. Eugene want to see people live and he understands that Rick\u2019s way of survival means killing innocent people that he feels cross him. The Saviors know each person has a purpose and are each needed for the whole to survive <\/span><b>(I do believe that Eugene has bought into the Saviors way of thinking for the reasons that you suggest.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi: \u00a0He is brainwashed in thinking Negan is a good guy that is helping. \u00a0I think he believes the things they are doing is to help people. \u00a0<\/span><b>(Eugene is truly making out like a champ here. \u00a0No where else would he be this well protected, which in turns gives him time to think on what to do next. \u00a0In turn, he has tried to help people along the way.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: Self-preservation is eugenes #1 objective. <\/span><b>(To go along with that, I have been trying to think of times where Eugene put himself in the path of any potential harm, and from what we have seen, you can count those times on one hand. \u00a0The dude is smart.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: I still am holding out hope that Eugene is just doing it to stay alive. <\/span><b>(Well, he is one of the best survivalists in the show, so of course he is doing whatever to survive. \u00a0He knows what he\u2019s doing. \u00a0It would be hilarious if he became the next antagonist on the show.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0I think he believes himself to be a savior, and has for quite some time, long before we even knew of the Saviors. \u00a0He is selfish, BUT he has had good intentions to help by and large. \u00a0He just doesn\u2019t like to fight\u2026.or getting punched in the face by Abe.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol start=\"6\">\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0Do you think that anybody originally objected to Rick&#8217;s plan when he laid it out, or did anybody secretly disagree? \u00a0I&#8217;m referring to the the time frame of the season premiere when ALL OUT WAR started.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob: \u00a0I think everyone agreed or they all came to an agreement. \u00a0I am not 100% certain this was only Rick\u2019s plan. <\/span><b>(I don\u2019t think it was all of his plans either. \u00a0I would surmise that Carol came up with at least 30%, Maggie or Jesus some portion, maybe Rosita, Tobin definitely.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: \u00a0there are more people that are disagreeing every day. Jesus and the hilltop are against him now. The kingdom is now defunct because of rick and now since rick was again being selfish the saviors are free to reign hell on the invaders. \u00a0<\/span><b>(That\u2019s really the foolish part is how quick so many people failed to stick to the plan, which was very smart, minus the severe waste of ammo. \u00a0They deserve to lose, yet they will win. \u00a0It\u2019s like watching 1980\u2019s Hulk Hogan.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi: \u00a0I think some disagreed but I think the majority wanted an end to Negan and the saviors so they went along with it. \u00a0<\/span><b>(I agree that although some may not have loved the plan, they agreed that it was a means to an end that shouldn\u2019t result in many casualties for their side.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: \u00a0I think everyone likely agreed. Though I&#8217;m sure some people did not share their opinions. <\/span><b>(I feel that someone like Morgan or Daryl would have had their own ways of wanting to do it. \u00a0They strike me as 2 of the big naysayers.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: \u00a0I think Daryl outright disagreed and Tara was more secret \u00a0\u00a0<\/span><b>(Yeah, as I just said to Chris, I don\u2019t think Daryl was mentally all in on this. \u00a0Him, Tara, Morgan,possibly Michonne and Rosita all are solid possibilities. \u00a0I\u2019m actually most surprised that they didn\u2019t demand immediate vengeance on the Scavengers.) \u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0No chance. \u00a0There are a lot of strong personalities, or very stubborn at least.Rosita, Carl, and Michonne all seem like they would want to take out The Scavengers based on The Scavengers sorta betraying them. \u00a0Carl almost died, Michonne almost died, and Rosita was shot.. \u00a0On top of that, you know that Daryl wanted to just do work due to his time on Easy Street.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol start=\"7\">\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0If somebody from Rick&#8217;s group dies due to Daryl and Tara&#8217;s assault on Sanctuary, should Rick consider some form of punishment for them? \u00a0If you say yes, what do you suggest?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-10682\" src=\"http:\/\/www.9deuce.tv\/blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/Rosita-Michonne-Daryl-Tara-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob: \u00a0Get in their face with an aggravated voice and point his finger at them. \u00a0Like he always does. \u00a0He will have to be speechless at first but then he will forgive them at some later episode where there is this special moment they are looking at each other OR the other person will die of convenience. \u00a0Like the way everything else has gone in the show. \u00a0<\/span><b>(Hahahahaha, truer words haven\u2019t been spoken in this blog in however many years that I have been doing it.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: \u00a0rick is a horrible leader who is selfish and only is looking out for himself. His plan has already caused the deaths of numerous people but yet he walks freely. \u00a0<\/span><b>(Let\u2019s take that to a whole other level. \u00a0Rick has almost gotten his son killed numerous time. \u00a0As much as I liked some of the other dead characters, none should be more important than Carl, especially Judith.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi: \u00a0No. They did what they thought needed to be done. <\/span><b>(Using that philosophy, I assume it\u2019s ok for Negan and the Saviors to do what they do based on them doing what they thought needed to be done. \u00a0If that\u2019s the case, I can get behind that.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: \u00a0Should he, yes. \u00a0Will he? \u00a0I doubt it. \u00a0<\/span><b>(Yeah, no chance in hell of him holding people accountable. \u00a0He at least has a prison cell.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: \u00a0Yes they should be pitted to fight against each other like Merle and Daryl were <\/span><b>(Sold! \u00a0I say Rosita vs Tara and Michonne vs Daryl. \u00a0Winners fight each other. \u00a0Maybe they could make a deal with the Scavengers, like so many hours of modeling and then The Scavengers could hold the event there.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0I think that Rick should give them options, a few possible punishments. \u00a0Give them the offer to move to another settlement. \u00a0Maybe spend a month in that prison cell. \u00a0One thing that most certainly would be happening if to put these people in the front for every upcoming fight. \u00a0That will either kill them or they end up help win the fight.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol start=\"8\">\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0A lot of people bad mouthed Rosita last week. \u00a0Did she do the right thing this week?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob: \u00a0Frankly, she didn\u2019t \u201cdo\u201d anything. \u00a0She just saw what they were doing is dumb. \u00a0<\/span><b>(Didn\u2019t she though? \u00a0Didn\u2019t she? \u00a0She stepped up to Dary;s group of terrorists. \u00a0That took guts.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: \u00a0Yes Rosita is starting to see the errors of their ways the Rick way is only going to get her killed.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi: Yes. I&#8217;m actually really starting to like her. \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: \u00a0Yes. \u00a0Going rogue just cause more problems. \u00a0Every. \u00a0Single. \u00a0Time. \u00a0<\/span><b>(I will add a caveat to that. \u00a0I still say that Merle did the right thing when he let Michonne go free and he tried taking out the Governor. \u00a0He was one fluke away from succeeding. \u00a0That fucking idiot stepped in front of Governor at the last second. \u00a0So yes, technically it went sort of wrong, but he still took out like 10 people.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: \u00a0Unfortunately yes she did the right thing because the other idiots were just being idiots. \u00a0<\/span><b>(The smartest idiot in the room theory. \u00a0I concur.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0Yes. \u00a0This plan of Daryl\u2019s vengeance tour was beyond foolish. \u00a0Daryl and Tara deserve to get got.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol start=\"9\">\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0What was your favorite Eugene one liner or moment from this week\u2019s episode?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob: \u00a0When he chickened out telling Negan the truth.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: \u00a0stuff that that strokes my rod.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi: \u00a0I liked how fearful he looked at the end. I&#8217;m just waiting for Negan to find his notebook and punish him. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: \u00a0I liked his reaction to when Dwight threatened him. \u00a0He \u00a0as clearly afraid but was oddly calm.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: When he finally flipped out on Gabe after Daryls smart move <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0The whole shaking Negan\u2019s hand. \u00a0I am still laughing when I see that scene, and I have rewatched it numerous times. \u00a0I think everybody chose well. \u00a0There were probably 8 or so one liners that I laughed at.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bonus Double Deuce<\/span><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0In hindsight, Daryl and Tara&#8217;s plan didn&#8217;t work as well as they anticipated. \u00a0Still, in the moment, if you saw an opportunity to end it, would you take it, or would you follow the plan? \u00a0(An example of this going poorly was Daryl (yet again) telling Carl not to take out the Governor before he beheaded Herschel.)<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-10681\" src=\"http:\/\/www.9deuce.tv\/blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/Morgan-I-Spy-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob: \u00a0Follow the plan, especially at the point they were at. \u00a0<\/span><b>(That last part can\u2019t be emphasized enough in my opinion.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: \u00a0Once again Darryl shows his cowardly side. He knows they can&#8217;t take the saviors in a fair fight so he uses techniques that Rick would do and tries to kill the saviors. And again he fails. That is why he will never be a leader \u00a0<\/span><b>(The longer the show goes, I have less and less faith in Daryl being a solid leader. \u00a0A good #3 or so, but never the A number 1 Duke of NY shit.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi: \u00a0I&#8217;m a by the book kind of person so I would have followed the plan. <\/span><b>(I do like to improvise, but you make a plan for a reason, and if you go through the arduous take of making aforementioned plan, well then you should do your best to follow it.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: \u00a0Follow the plan. \u00a0They made a plan for a reason right? \u00a0Didn&#8217;t he see what happened to his brother when he went off-plan? \u00a0<\/span><b>(Haha, well that goes to show you that I don\u2019t read this beforehand. \u00a0I just read it top to bottom. \u00a0I am really happy that I mentioned Merle like 2 answers ago.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: \u00a0Follow the plan especially with Negan. He is a whole new kind of a beast \u00a0<\/span><b>(Negan is definitely better set up than anybody or thing else that they have come across. \u00a0I would put Terminus at #2.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0I say that you take the opportunity to end it unless you know that it\u2019s foolproof. \u00a0I use Jaime Lannister going after Dany in the most recent season of GoT as my best recent time example in a fictional show.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol start=\"2\">\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> What will\/would it take for Daryl to stop being so headstrong and stubborn?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob: \u00a0Him causing Carol\u2019s death. \u00a0<\/span><b>(I would go so far as to add Carl, Judith, or Maggie to that list. \u00a0Carol probably means the most to him though.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: \u00a0Daryl needs to get hurt. A face scar would go along way to stopping his idiot behavior. \u00a0<\/span><b>(It would make him look more bad ass.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi: \u00a0I don&#8217;t know that anything will change him. With all the crap he has been through, if he hasn&#8217;t changed yet, it\u2019s not happening. <\/span><b>(That is also entirely possible. \u00a0The dude may just be \u201cbroken\u201d to some extent.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: \u00a0Someone really important dying (Michonne, Carol, Rick.) \u00a0<\/span><b>(Well, yeah I don\u2019t know how I left Rick off my response to Bob. \u00a0I am trying to think of how close Michonne and Daryl are. \u00a0I am positive that I am forgetting some stuff, but I feel like they haven\u2019t do much together, but I am probably wrong.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: \u00a0His actions causing Judith\u2019s death \u00a0<\/span><b>(Yup, I said that in my Bob response as well. \u00a0He has an attachment to that girl.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0Judith dying seems reasonable. \u00a0A lot of you mentioned various names and I think all of them are quite important and play a n important role.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol start=\"3\">\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0Obviously Negan tells Eugene what he wants to hear. \u00a0WIth that being said, do you think that Negan believes some of what he says to Eugene or is it all just a ploy?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob: \u00a0Everything Negan says is crafted to manipulate. \u00a0It is sheer manipulation, nothing legitimate. \u00a0Even if Negan is saying something he means, he isn\u2019t saying it because he is sharing a part of himself, it simply happens to coincide with what NEEDS to be said.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: \u00a0Don Negan showed again his leadership skills and makes another desperate person feel strong and confident. Negan needs Eugene and his skills to make the entire group stronger. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi: \u00a0I don&#8217;t think he trusts Eugene. He has a lot more street smarts and can read people well. I think it&#8217;s just part of his master plan.. whatever that may be. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: \u00a0Negan is manipulative. \u00a0He know exactly how the to stroke Eugene&#8217;s ego.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: \u00a0I believe Negan once he sees Eugene make the bullets will start to see his true usefulness. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0As of right now, there is no right or wrong answer. \u00a0I truly believe that Negan believes a lot of what he says to Eugene. \u00a0I am not stupid enough to say that\u2019 it\u2019s not entirely manipulative. \u00a0The thing is, Eugene is probably the smartest dude that Negan has and I truly believe that Negan believes that in order for The Saviors to remain a large, well running machine, Eugene is a great mind to have around. \u00a0He is an idea man, and a science man. \u00a0Negan can trust Eugene\u2019s loyalty. \u00a0I guess what I am saying is that I really don\u2019t believe that it\u2019s all bullshit at the moment.I get everybody\u2019s perspective though. \u00a0Let\u2019s not forget, Eugene has been given so much praise, respect, and trust while at Sanctuary. \u00a0The sort of stuff that only Abe and Rosita had given him until the truth was revealed.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol start=\"4\">\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0Who&#8217;s gonna get got next week? \u00a0Will the shocking moment be more than just a death?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob: \u00a0Daryl is going to get got. \u00a0<\/span><b>(That would make it \u201cepic\u201d.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: \u00a0we are gonna see Alexandria and the hilltop attacked the widow and others will once again be kneeling before lucille. Gabriel turns and eats the dr. Which causes Eugene to kill him. On a side note grace needs to be freed and brought back home. \u00a0<\/span><b>(Gracie deserves to be brought back to her people. \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Whether people like the Saviors or not, I still think that they would do their best to take care of her.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: \u00a0The saviors are going to attack Alexandria, so it&#8217;s either Rosita, michonne or carl in my opinion. \u00a0They are saying this will be a huge shock, so I think this time, Negan will in fact kill carl. \u00a0<\/span><b>(That\u2019s one of 3 kills that would really ruin my day. \u00a0Carl, Carol, and Eugene. \u00a0I don\u2019t want Morgon or Ezekiel to get it, but that would simply sting. \u00a0Losing any of those 3 would really irk me.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: \u00a0Eugene had a lot of screen time this week so I see him getting killed <\/span><b>(Boooooooo. \u00a0Not happening. \u00a0If it does, I riot.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0Gabe the walked will be unleashed. \u00a0Gabriel will bite Tara. \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0I think Gregory also gets got.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Final Thoughts<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: \u00a0the Ricktards have kicked the hornets nest and will feel the rath of the saviors. It&#8217;s time for arl to his sister to be brought home to the saviors and raised by their true father.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: \u00a0I hope the second half of this season is a little more fast paced. \u00a0All out war has not been what I had hoped so far. \u00a0Plus I would like to see Negan more. \u00a0Was he even in half the episodes?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: I hope when they return in February the episodes are better \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0I am really thrilled with how they have evolved Eugene\u2019s character up to this point. \u00a0Yes, it\u2019s subtle and nothing compared to how we will view him by the season 8 finale, but still, they have done a stand up job. \u00a0I know this show is hard to watch for the most seasoned viewers, and I get it. \u00a0The best thing I can say is to enjoy these next 9 episodes. \u00a0You may be happy when ALL OUT WAR ends, but I fear that there is some boring ass stuff coming up, like maybe worse than season 5 and 6.when they were going through the motions.<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>All the pictures used in this blog are for review purposes. 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