{"id":10334,"date":"2017-11-05T18:25:37","date_gmt":"2017-11-05T18:25:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.9deuce.tv\/blogs\/?p=10334"},"modified":"2017-11-05T18:25:37","modified_gmt":"2017-11-05T18:25:37","slug":"the-walking-dead-9-deuce-s8-ep2-the-damned","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/9deuce.tv\/tv\/the-walking-dead-9-deuce-s8-ep2-the-damned\/","title":{"rendered":"The Walking Dead 9 Deuce: S:8 Ep:2 &#8220;The Damned&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>We are back to dissect &#8220;The Damned&#8221; which featured the return of the loveable&#8230;..or totally forgotten character named Morales, and lots and lots of action.\u00a0 \u00a0We need plot development damnit!\u00a0 Today, we have a nice lineup of featured commentators, and I thank them for their time and sacrifice.\u00a0 There&#8217;s a theory that every time somebody answers a question at 9Deuce.com, a spider dies.\u00a0 So keep up the exxxxxcellent work.\u00a0 Any comments in bold is from Kent.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The 9<\/span><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0Should we start fearing for Morgan\u2019s life after he made his declaration?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Briana: \u00a0Well yeah! That was my first thought! He&#8217;s dead now bc he said he doesn&#8217;t die! Lol! Plus, it feels a little like Glen to me. Reminiscent of the dumpster maybe dead thing and then he&#8217;s not dead and then he gets killed! \u00a0<\/span><b>(Please\u2026..pretty please, let\u2019s never have another dumpster incident that makes zero sense ever again.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob: \u00a0No. \u00a0Morgan has a true war mentality. \u00a0You can be the most effective killer with the belief that you yourself cannot die. \u00a0<\/span><b>(That\u2019s just like me playing Deathrow against the Convicts\u2026.well close.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bitty: \u00a0I really feel like as long as Rick is alive so will Morgan be. They keep each other grounded. <\/span><b>(Rick can\u2019t die. It\u2019s in Andy\u2019s contract.<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: \u00a0Nope that man is a ghost living amongst the mortals. \u00a0<\/span><b>(That was damn near poetic.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi: \u00a0I&#8217;m worried for him. Why did he have to go and say Morgan doesn&#8217;t die!? \u00a0<\/span><b>(As I noted in my response, Andrea says something similar in the comic and it becomes somewhat of a mantra for her and Rick, so I think that\u2019s why he said it. \u00a0I miss Eastman.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: \u00a0I&#8217;m not sure. \u00a0I like Morgan as a character. \u00a0He&#8217;s so conflicted. \u00a0I&#8217;m hoping that if he does end up dying that he finds some kind of peace. \u00a0<\/span><b>(I don\u2019t think Morgan gets enough credit as one of the better done characters, and of course Lennie James is a great talent.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: \u00a0I say yes unfortunately that was a pretty bold statement to make. He lives with his demons daily and at times he was the moral compass. <\/span><b>(Moral compasses do well in TWD. \u00a0Just look at Gabriel saving Gregory!)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Eric:\u00a0 He knows his time is limited. But he doesn\u2019t act impulsive. <\/span><b>(I like that so many of things he does seem rationalized, like he at least thought before doing.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0Well, in the comic, Andrea said something similar. \u00a0She lasted a hell of a lot longer than Morgan did in the comics, as he would already be gone. \u00a0So natural instincts suggest that he\u2019s a goner at some point this season. I think he still has 1 or 2 full seasons ahead of him. \u00a0When the quiet ones come, then I will start worrying.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol start=\"2\">\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0Should we start to fear for Eric\u2019s life or will he be fine?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-10335 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/www.9deuce.tv\/blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Aaron-and-Eric-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Briana: \u00a0Again, another one I totally expected to die in the episode. It would be really sad but that&#8217;s why it will probably happen.<\/span><b>(We haven\u2019t had a sad death in a while. \u00a0We are totally due!)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob: \u00a0Oh, dead. \u00a0Deader than dead. \u00a0He was dead at his inception of the show. <\/span><b>(You\u2019re right. \u00a0If you look through the history of the show, there\u2019s been a handful of people that were instantly identifiable as one borrowed time. \u00a0I always felt that way with Noah, Dale, Bob, Otis, and so many more. \u00a0By the way, I have seen Otis in 2 things this past week: Stranger Things season 2 and The Devil\u2019s Candy which also starred Ethan Embry who played Carter in TWD. )<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bitty: Dead. And probably Aaron too. <\/span><b>(Aaron will be fine. \u00a0Jesus needs a man in his life unless they plan on turning Daryl\u2019s character gay.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: \u00a0yup hes a goner.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi: \u00a0He will probably live. I feel like them making seem like he will die means he is going to live. \u00a0<\/span><b>(You and Chris are of the same mindset, which I find surprising, but I am all for something surprising to me, like the Scavengers turning. \u00a0Surprises are great!)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: \u00a0I have a feeling he&#8217;s going to pull through. \u00a0This seems like one of those \u201cWalking Dead\u201d things where they make you think someone is going to die, only for them to miraculously survive. \u00a0Eric also needs more screen time so that people become more invested in him, otherwise his death won&#8217;t mean much. \u00a0<\/span><b>(The odd thing is that somebody like Tobin has had more, and better screen time than Eric, who is definitely a more important character in my opinion. \u00a0Also, where the hell is Kent? \u00a0I haven\u2019t seen him all season.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: \u00a0I don\u2019t think Eric is made for the combat life. Scouting may be more his thing. I think he\u2019ll die if he has to be fighting more. <\/span><b>(He is a better scout, but Aaron is such a better recruiter. \u00a0I wish they had done more with his character, as Chris mentioned.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Eric: \u00a0Gut wounds are very hard to treat without modern technology. \u00a0He can bleed out very fast.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He is most likely a goner \u00a0<\/span><b>(I know that this is an odd tie in, but there was a film in 93 called A Perfect World. \u00a0It was really good, at least to me, and had Kevin Costner and Clint Eastwood. \u00a0My point is, in the film, there is a gun shot to the belly and your comment reminded me of that.<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0He dead.\u00a0 This is kinda spoiler-ific, so skip to the next question if you don\u2019t want my theory. \u00a0I won\u2019t be offended. \u00a0In the comic, they did a scene where Abe\u2019s woman, Holly, ended up getting caught during this assault on Sanctuary. \u00a0Negan brings her back, and she has a sack over her head. \u00a0When they remove the hood, Denise is busy patching up Heath. \u00a0Holly then bites Denise and she tends to Heath\u2019s wound before dying. \u00a0Soooooo, with that knowledge, it is very easy to see something similar play out. \u00a0Gabriel gets returned with a bag over his head and he ends up biting somebody who is tending to Eric\u2019s wound, let\u2019s say and hope it is Tara.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol start=\"3\">\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0Whose side were you on between Tara and Jesus?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Briana: \u00a0I hate to ever agree with Tara\u2019s dumbass but definitely her. We&#8217;ve learned from our mistakes here people. If you go to a place to kill everyone, you kill everyone dammit! \u00a0<\/span><b>(That was the most mean spirited reply about Tara, so you definitely got a point.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob: \u00a0In this world on the show, Tara. \u00a0POWs take resources and manpower which the Axis of goodness does not have. \u00a0I would bet this is part of Negan\u2019s plan. \u00a0Also, like any POW, you are to resist and attempt escape to keep enemy resources from being used effectively. \u00a0<\/span><b>(I loved how you put this into some real perspective. \u00a0That is the type of critical thinking I enjoy. You are spot on here.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bitty: \u00a0Tara! Take them out. Anyone at an outpost is more than a \u201cworker\u201d. <\/span><b>(I gotta disagree here. \u00a0I definitely feel that there are people who are simply workers because it\u2019s that or Lucille. \u00a0Look at Oceanside&#8230;or don\u2019t. \u00a0Fudge that place!)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: \u00a0Tara.. KILL THEM ALL Jesus is too soft. \u00a0<\/span><b>(I feel that you would be a good apocalypse companion. \u00a0I would not be.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi: I dont care for Tara but Im on her side here. Jesus is being way too emotional about this. They would have no problem taking them out. I think they need to think the same way. <\/span><b>(Have we gotten past the whole point of having some humanity? \u00a0I would say yes, but it\u2019s a good talking point nonetheless.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: \u00a0This is tough. \u00a0I agree with both of them in some regards. \u00a0It would seem smarter to just kill the Saviors. \u00a0(<\/span><b>Jesus does have a valid point. \u00a0I\u2019m actually surprised that nobody here sided with him. \u00a0)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: \u00a0I have to say I agree with Tara killing them is just the way to go \u00a0<\/span><b>(She was good on Talking Dead though after.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Eric: In that instance, Tara. They were there to clear the building and take no hostages.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Jesus was in the wrong and it almost got both of them killed. \u00a0<\/span><b>(Much like Morgan, I enjoy the term clear.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0This was the meanest thing that I have done to any of you. \u00a0I asked a question that practically forced you to agree or take Tara\u2019s side. \u00a0Kudos to Bri for calling her a dumbass.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol start=\"4\">\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0How excited are you to see Morales back?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-10336\" src=\"http:\/\/www.9deuce.tv\/blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Morales-Returns-300x211.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"211\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Briana: \u00a0I wouldn&#8217;t say excited but I am definitely intrigued! It took me a minute to realize who he was and then I had to explain it to the rest of my house. He doesn&#8217;t seem to have any loyalty to the original group though so I&#8217;m interested to see where this leads. \u00a0<\/span><b>(I also had to explain. \u00a0I wish they would elaborate on the Vatos some day, but the deleted scene in the season 2 opener did explain it.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob: \u00a0I forgot about him.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bitty: \u00a0Who? Now you know I\u2019m not the only one who had to google him then re-watch his episode to remember him. I\u2019m excited to hear his back story and where he\u2019s been. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: \u00a0It plays well with my point of view that Rick was a dirty cop under Negan\u2019s control and now there maybe someone else who knows Rick&#8217;s secret. \u00a0<\/span><b>(I really do love this theory.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi: \u00a0I have a hard time remembering characters, so I really don&#8217;t remember him. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: \u00a0I&#8217;m excited, but I&#8217;m curious how many people remember him. \u00a0A friend of mine who has watched every season didn&#8217;t remember him. \u00a0I&#8217;m sure we\u2019ll get some backstory next week. \u00a0<\/span><b>(I really would enjoy a backstory for him and his family. \u00a0I always wished that we had gotten more stories on certain characters, and he was gone from the show before they could elaborate. \u00a0I always wanted more on Milton, Shumpert, and T Dog.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: \u00a0Sure let\u2019s see how this stuff plays out I am curious if it\u2019s just him or if the wife and kids have survived.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Eric: \u00a0I was for a split second. But his actions kinda ruined it. I hope he reconsiders his turncoat ways. Though his actions do bring up the \u201c Rick is the villain\u201d thought \u00a0<\/span><b>(it\u2019s all about perspective. \u00a0I actually don\u2019t think that they can ever give us Negan\u2019s backstory for fear of having too many fans empathize with him.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0Hell yeah I was excited! \u00a0I know some of you feel that he is kinda betraying Rick, but he\u2019s not from my perspective. \u00a0He was part of a group and knew Rick for like 3 days. \u00a0Technically, it was Shane\u2019s group or Dale\u2019s at the time. \u00a0Now it is Rick\u2019s group, but at the time, Rick was just another father and husband. \u00a0We all have a certain amount of affinity towards Rick, well maybe not Brian, but that shouldn\u2019t skew our perspective of how things played out back then.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol start=\"5\">\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0Did it seem like Mara allowed that walker to just bite her without any fight whatsoeve?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Briana: \u00a0A little bit, yes. It was like she realized, they&#8217;ve won and just gave into it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob: \u00a0I blame tonic immobility and panic.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bitty: \u00a0Yes. I think she knew her jig was up. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: She realized that she was caught in the trap and the only way out was to join the herd<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi: \u00a0It did seem like she allowed it. You see her hand kinda grab his arm, as if she is accepting it. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: \u00a0I think she just didn&#8217;t see it in time. \u00a0By the time she saw it, it was already on top of her.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: \u00a0Yes she was looking around realizing what was happening I figured she\u2019d been more alert of her surroundings \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Eric: \u00a0I think that she was so shocked with the tactic of letting her friends turn to walkers, she didn\u2019t have proper time to react. Plus I don\u2019t think she was a true fighter like the rest of ricks group<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0I agree with most of you to varying degrees. \u00a0Some of you seem to think that it was more her giving up or accepting her fate, and others think of it was a shocked or delayed reaction due to everything happening on the spur of the moment. \u00a0I really thought that she was beyond overwhelmed mentally and she simply froze and by the time she could react, what was the point? \u00a0Almost in too deep. \u00a0I watched the death like 8 times. \u00a0Don\u2019t judge me.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol start=\"6\">\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0Is it smart to take all of these Saviors as prisoners?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Briana: \u00a0Of course not! Again, we&#8217;ve been down the prisoner road with people like them and it just doesn&#8217;t work. They are brainwashed into thinking this is how life is supposed to be now and I don&#8217;t think they can change many of them from that belief. \u00a0<\/span><b>(Seriously, how many times have we gone down this road? \u00a0I can offer multiple instances, but aside from Michonne, Axel, the black prisoner dude who I really liked, Aaron, and Jesus, prisoners haven\u2019t been great. \u00a0Randall comes to mind.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob: \u00a0Not at all. \u00a0Tiger food. \u00a0<\/span><b>(Shiva approves this message.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bitty: \u00a0Hell no. I don\u2019t like the idea. Unless there is another plan for them. <\/span><b>(I would be intrigued if it was a good plan. \u00a0Then I look back to the people that they took in from Woodbury and then think, wow, they are all dead! \u00a0Plans tend to fail in this show.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: \u00a0I like the idea. It gives my man Negan and his innocent people the ability to have friends behind the enemy lines. \u00a0<\/span><b>(I am very curious about your perspective on Eugene with Negan. \u00a0We need to talk soon and have a few drinks.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi: \u00a0They should just take them out. I don&#8217;t think them having that many people that are against them around is wise. Just a big group that can plot against them. <\/span><b>(This group should know better. \u00a0Look how well Terminus went. \u00a0They should all be dead, but Gareth and the Termites were stupid and it\u2019s like history repeating itself, only it\u2019s with \u201cour group\u201d.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: \u00a0I don&#8217;t think so. \u00a0The saviors are very dangerous and deceptive. \u00a0While they may have helpful info, I doubt they will be very sharing. \u00a0<\/span><b>(Right? \u00a0If you were captured, honestly, you are probably a happy Savior working and obeying the rules and surviving. \u00a0Then Rick\u2019s jerkoff group shows up and ruins everything.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: \u00a0Nope kill them all \u00a0<\/span><b>(Even Jared?)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Eric: \u00a0Hostages only complicate things. Anyone showing aggression needed to be put down.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">These people already showed what they can do. \u00a0<\/span><b>(How often do hostages truly help somebody? \u00a0I wish there was some statistical analysis. \u00a0If TV and films are any indication, you almost always get caught or die when you bring hostages into play.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0Unfortunately, while there are probably some who would be happy to work towards a happy common goal, the way that this has gone down, they can\u2019t ever trust Rick\u2019s group. \u00a0So stab them all, no bullets because they used all of them on Negan\u2019s windows like morons.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol start=\"7\">\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0Will Jared (the long haired guy that has long antagonized people and is in Gavin\u2019s group and used to mess with Richard) make it to the midseason finale alive?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Briana: \u00a0Well even after your description and googling him, I can&#8217;t figure out his role in all this so I&#8217;m going to say no, he won&#8217;t lol! \u00a0<\/span><b>(Sorry, I tried my best to describe him, but I didn\u2019t do a great job.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob: \u00a0Yes, and he will even kill someone important contrary to some orders or expectations. <\/span><b>(I can see him taking out Morgan, Diane, or even Shiva. \u00a0Boy, that would piss some people off, myself included. \u00a0I really like Diane.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bitty: \u00a0Are we really talking midseason finale? Didn\u2019t this season just begin? How many episodes in this season\u2026 and no hopefully he\u2019ll go down in next episodes walker raid. <\/span><b>(There are 8 episodes per half season. \u00a0Two have gone past, so he has 6 more to live or die for the question.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi: \u00a0I don\u2019t think so, but I&#8217;m often wrong so probably. <\/span><b>(That\u2019s pretty much my luck and thought process, so you are not alone.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: \u00a0I sure hope not. \u00a0I didn&#8217;t think he was going to live through that scene! \u00a0<\/span><b>(I was so engaged in the show that I was convinced that he was going to get got by Morgan. \u00a0It makes more sense for him to live to be the spokesman for the hostages.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: \u00a0Nope I don\u2019t think he will I believe Morgan may even get the kill \u00a0<\/span><b>(I hope so. \u00a0Morgan deserves it in a way to do it in honor of Benjamin.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Eric: \u00a0I think he needs to go away. \u00a0He had already caused enough problems. And will only prove to be a danger in the future \u00a0\u00a0<\/span><b>(Some people just don\u2019t deserve to live, in my opinion, and this dude really doesn\u2019t deserve to, which is why he\u2019s a good character I suppose.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0Jared seems like he will get got by some unforeseen circumstances. \u00a0Not by Morgan or Ezekiel, but random walker attack. \u00a0I think when he des die, it will feel incredibly satisfying and therapeutic to most fans.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol start=\"8\">\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0This was a fairly action packed episode. \u00a0Did it feel exciting for you or rather dull?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Briana: \u00a0A little of both, I get that it was intended to be exciting but it was mostly a bunch of shooting that led to no where so part of me was quite dissapointed. Loud does not equal exciting! <\/span><b>(I agree with you. \u00a0If we knew more of Negan\u2019s people then a shoot out is exciting. \u00a0Right now it\u2019s like watching Han Solo shooting a bunch of nameless Storm Troopers. \u00a0We have no real reason to care about these people living or dying.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob: \u00a0A second episode where I could choose to stop watching. \u00a0The hammer-cock at the end had zero effect and impact. \u00a0Anyone can disarm a guy with a gun that close, FYI. <\/span><b>(I was wondering that same thing about the disarming. \u00a0It seemed a tad sloppy, but this wouldn\u2019t be the first time that the show got sloppy. \u00a0Carol and Daryl in the falling ambulance is still the funniest one.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bitty: \u00a0I\u2019m a fan of the action of course but looked at the clock 31minutes in and was shocked how fast the episode was going!! I hate when the episode is slow but hate when it flies by. I have trouble finding a middle of the road episode. <\/span><b>(It went by way too fast in my opinion. \u00a0I dread checking my watch when viewing the show.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: \u00a0Dull. Rick is a basket case and will let his desire to hide his past lead him to his death at the hands of Carl. \u00a0<\/span><b>(We really need to get you writing some TWD fan fiction.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi: \u00a0I enjoyed it. It was exciting. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: \u00a0Tons of action! \u00a0It was great to see a lot of the lesser known characters get into the action. <\/span><b>(I will say, I really did like to see some of the lesser characters get some shine, especially Eric. \u00a0I don\u2019t like his character too much, but someone like Tobin and Francine got to shine. \u00a0Unfortunately, so did Tara.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: \u00a0I know they have to build up the story line but I have been rather bored<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Eric: \u00a0it was. I enjoyed it. I wish they were all like this. \u00a0<\/span><b>(I think it is fair to assume that Eric enjoys action flicks.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0I felt that this was too much action for a follow up to the action from the season premiere. \u00a0The pace is too much and not in a good way like Game of Thrones was. \u00a0With so many characters, if we are going to have action packed episodes, lots of people need to die so they don\u2019t have to tell as many stories. \u00a0I liked it, but could go for some episodes where they do 3 different stories throughout. \u00a0That is when it flows at it\u2019s finest.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol start=\"9\">\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0Do you like it when Ezekiel is playing his king role or when he goes out of character briefly?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Briana: \u00a0It is nice to see him laid back once in a while but I think at this point, the king is who he is. I think the people we pretend to be are the people we want to be deep down. And after a certain point, it&#8217;s no longer an act. So as much as I enjoy laid back Ezekiel, Long Live The King Y&#8217;all! \u00a0<\/span><b>(Thank you for including the y\u2019all. \u00a0It was needed and appreciated.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob: \u00a0Fake it til you Make it. \u00a0I love it!! \u00a0<\/span><b>(That\u2019s been Russell\u2019s mom\u2019s motto from the beginning. \u00a0It had to be said.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bitty: \u00a0LOVE IT! We immediately rewound it twice just to hear him. Team Ezekiel all the way. <\/span><b>(Team Ezekiel? \u00a0The hell is this? \u00a0You going to say #EzekielStrong next?)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: \u00a0This show is full of people playing different people to hide their pasts. I wish others would be as honest as he is. <\/span><b>(I really loved this response and now I don\u2019t even like my response.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi: \u00a0Both! He is the shit! What ever role he is in, I am always happy to see him on the screen. <\/span><b>(You\u2019re right. \u00a0He is an absolutely delight to watch. \u00a0In a show full of great acting talent, he still stands out in a positive way.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: \u00a0I like both. \u00a0Those moments when he drops his character just make him better. \u00a0He&#8217;s the best character on the show! \u00a0<\/span><b>(I can\u2019t argue with that. \u00a0I am still incredibly fond of a few others slightly more like Carl, Carol, and Morgan, but still, he\u2019s in the conversation, so that speaks volumes. \u00a0I hope that h is around for a good amount of time.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: I do enjoy when he shows both sides \u00a0<\/span><b>(He does both in such interesting ways.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Eric: \u00a0I like him in his \u201cKing \u201c role. I feel when he breaks character, it kinda ruins the fantasy he has built. \u00a0<\/span><b>(I have been trying to figure out if he is doing it to charm Carol or if he does it because he knows that Carol sees through it.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0I will say the King role because with that comes Jerry, and Jerry is fucking awesome.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bonus Deuce<\/span><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0\u00a0Will we see \u201cSuper Daryl\u201d next week?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Briana: \u00a0Hmmm.. I hadn&#8217;t thought about it. We are definitely due for some crazy Darryl action! He&#8217;s been broken and beaten and this episode, he got a reminder of that. He will either use that to fuel the fire or retreat, in going with fuel! \u00a0<\/span><b>(The fact that he was broken seems like the perfect thing to get him back in his Daryl groove.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob: \u00a0I don\u2019t really know what to expect. \u00a0I figure we may see some awesome escape.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bitty: \u00a0it\u2019s due. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: \u00a0Darryl is a tool!!! \u00a0<\/span><b>(Man, you just upset some female readers. \u00a0I salute you for that.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi: \u00a0I think Super Darryl is long gone. Ever since Beth, he just seems like a softy. Its gotten to the point that he just bugs me. <\/span><b>( i go back to the Daryl and Beth episode where they burned the house down as the point where Daryl lost it. \u00a0I hated that episode, still my least favorite. \u00a0I also didn\u2019t like Beth unless she was singing some Tom Waites.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: \u00a0We haven&#8217;t had super Daryl in a bit, so it&#8217;s probably time again ????<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: \u00a0Yup we&#8217;re due for some ridiculous Daryl action<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Eric: \u00a0He spent so much time being a hostage, I\u2019m glad to see him \u201cBack\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0It\u2019s going to happen. \u00a0I guarandamntee it. \u00a0And if I am wrong, you will have long forgotten my stupid words.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol start=\"2\">\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0Should we start fearing for Tobin\u2019s life?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Briana: \u00a0The type of character he is, of course. He could go at any time. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob: \u00a0Red Shirt on borrowed time.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bitty: \u00a0We always should fear for everyone\u2019s life\u2026 duh it\u2019s the apocalypse. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: \u00a0I think he will stick around<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi: \u00a0I&#8217;m more concerned for the tiger.\u00a0<strong>(As you should be.)<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chris: \u00a0I think pretty much anyone could die this season, and the lesser known ones are more likely to die. \u00a0I&#8217;m sure a main character will die at some point too.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: \u00a0Yes especially if they start giving him more screen time<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Eric: \u00a0no one is safe.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kent: \u00a0So this was just a running joke for me if I am going to be honest. \u00a0I was waiting for somebody to call me out for asking the same question 3 times. \u00a0This episode was not very deep from a story standpoint, so I had to resort to it. \u00a0The fact that all of you went along with it, I thank you. \u00a0Tobin lives the thug life. \u00a0That dude ain\u2019t dyin\u2019.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Final Thoughts<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brian: \u00a0Rick is losing control of both his mental state and the ability to clearly lead. At this point his desire to find a cure is being blinded by the need to keep his past hidden. I think he knew this virus was about to hit and feels guilty that he did nothing to stop it. Now he must live with the guilt of being the cause of this world and hide the fact that his one time boss Negan knows his secrets.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi: \u00a0What&#8217;s up with the baby and why didn&#8217;t Rick take her? He&#8217;s just going to take all the adults and leave the baby? That confused me. <\/span><b>(I\u2019m hoping that Kent is taking care of Judith. \u00a0He seems like a good father figure.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Raylene: \u00a0As in wrestling I\u2019m ready for some heel turns<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Eric: \u00a0All that gun fire&#8230;.not a single reload. 30 round magazine going full auto will only last a few minutes. 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